Behavior help/ Torn wattles/ I think I killed the rooster, help me!!

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Whitewinterwolf, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. Whitewinterwolf

    Whitewinterwolf Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 11, 2011
    Massachusetts
    I consider this an emergency so that's why its here,
    Someone dumped a rooster that is around the same age as my current roo, I posted here about him once or twice...
    I have about 14 hens out with my roo roopurt, and now this guy Grumbles.
    Its been 10 days, and I had a specialist friend of mine go over him because he offered, and he told me he would be fine, and that is I just de-wormed him, ivermec'ed him and treated him with a 5 day course of Corid that I could introduce him no problem after 10 days. He then told me how to go about it, and that no mater what it would not be pretty...
    So I did....
    But I am very concerned!!!
    They fought as expected but now its going on an hour and I had to just rush inside to make sure everything will be ok, or if I should be doing something different.
    I have torn wattles and pecked combs and omg both of there heads are soaked in blood from it...I was told this would happen and not to freak out BUT IM FREAKING OUT!!! I have bandages and Baidadine on stand by...
    Grumbles keeps backing down now, but roopert wont stop chasing him and pecking at him. i think hes proud that he took down a bigger rooster actually...BUT SERIOUSLY!!!
    I was told to introduce them on neutral ground and just stand back and let nature take its course and not to interfere. They were able to see and hear each other threw the glass for the 10 days so he said they should react naturally..
    Holy cow they did...
    Will they be ok???
    Did I get good advice??
    When will they settle down???
    And good lord how to I treat torn wattles???
     
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  2. easttxchick

    easttxchick Lone Star Call Ducks

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    Until one backs down, the fighting will NEVER end until one of them is dead. There HAS to be ONE dominant rooster, you can't have 2.
    I don't believe in the theory of letting them fight it out-if there is that much blood, it's gone too far.
    I would either separate them, or barring that get rid of one of them.
    JUST MY OPINION, but letting them fight it out is bad advice and just plain brutal. Not your fault, you're following the advice you were given.
     
  3. Whitewinterwolf

    Whitewinterwolf Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 11, 2011
    Massachusetts
    Quote:I know its brutal, thats why Im so concerned. I just dident expect it to be THAT brutal!
    They seem to have stopped now actually. Grumbles is in the corner of the feild and roopurt is in the other.
    I just need to catch them both now and make sure there ok T_T
    If they have stopped now, will they remain neutral now?
     
  4. Whitewinterwolf

    Whitewinterwolf Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 11, 2011
    Massachusetts
    Anyone please???
     
  5. sourland

    sourland Broody Magician Premium Member

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    They will very likely rest up and then start fighting again. Introducing a new rooster to an established flock is usually impossible. If a second rooster is desired raising one in the flock with a broody hen generally works better. Understand that now that your roosters are tired, stressed, and worn out they are more vulnerable to predator attack and disease breaks. Monitor the situation, and if severe fighting continues, I would recommend seperating them and relocating one or the other. Good luck on resolving this.
     
  6. Whitewinterwolf

    Whitewinterwolf Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 11, 2011
    Massachusetts
    Quote:Ok, god I wish I had been given better advice, I knew I should have double checked with everyone on this site first.
    Ill keep a good eye on them, clean them up as soon as I get a hold of them.
    Oh god this is awful, i feel like a pet abusor [​IMG]
     
  7. NatureBoy86

    NatureBoy86 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I see the point of natures course and allowing them to "settle" it but if the victor is still chasing the defeated he more then likely wont stop till death or until hes out of his territory. The whole not being able to have 2 roos is false, I have 3 roos two which are 2+yrs old and a 7 month old youngster and they live peacefully amongst each other. At times they'll bump chest and throw a few pecks but as soon as ol yeller throws a ninja kick the other submits. Your gonna get it was bad advice and it was good advice, in MY Opinion as long as they have the ability run from the fight and escape further attacks I think it could be ok to let em handle it like nature intended, but not in a confined area. As for face and waddles, just clean with warm water or a antiseptic solution, or even peroxide, then dry and apply neosporin or any triple antibiotic ointment. I add a little shaved tylenol to their water if swelling occurs, for pain. Hope they reach a "understanding" [​IMG]
     
  8. sourland

    sourland Broody Magician Premium Member

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    Nope, not a pet abuser - just new at learning basic poultry husbandry. It's all about each rooster trying to assure that his DNA gets to carry on. They are just acting like normal roosters and you were simply unaware of the degree to which they might fight. If one of the roosters was more submissive, it might have worked, but that probability was low.
     
  9. easttxchick

    easttxchick Lone Star Call Ducks

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    Quote:Ok, god I wish I had been given better advice, I knew I should have double checked with everyone on this site first.
    Ill keep a good eye on them, clean them up as soon as I get a hold of them.
    Oh god this is awful, i feel like a pet abusor [​IMG]

    No way are you abusive! Don't feel like that-we've all been given bad advice about our birds a million times.
    I would go ahead and pull both boys out and put them in separate cages. If you put either boy back in with the girls, they will pick on the areas of the comb/wattles that were injured.
    Maybe you could try to rehome one of them if you don't have the ability to keep them apart.
    YOU DID NOTHING WRONG-you were trying to rescue a bird. [​IMG]
     
  10. Terri O

    Terri O Chillin' With My Peeps

    Dont feel bad...sometimes even in established flocks one of the lower roos decides he wants to move up. They do fight sometimes. If fighting gets bloody here I usually separate the birds for a bit. Lock one inside and leave the other out or even put one in a barrel for a bit. Seems like it confuses them and they settle down. I have lots of roos though so maybe it doesnt work with just two?
    Good luck--nice of you to give him a home...Terri O
     

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