behind the 8 ball with my flock these days

Discussion in 'Managing Your Flock' started by roz, Jul 28, 2011.

  1. roz

    roz Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hi all,
    So, I've posted a lot in the emergencies and diseases section, but thought I'd post a general "what am I doing wrong" quesiton here. We got our chickens as juveniles last July, and things were fine and dandy even through the harsh winter we had. Then, in May, I discovered lice on a few of our 10 hens. We took care of that with pyrmethrin, and I spent a lot of time spraying the coop, and changing bedding twice a week for about a month, just in case we had mites too. Then, in June, my husband made a daycare tractor for the chickens to have some grass time while we were home (we have very aggressive hawks here that dive bomb our backyard. Shortly before that though, I noticed that some of the hens had what I considered distended belly areas. We started putting them on our grass, and shortly after, our Phoenix got sick. She was fine in the morning, but by the afternoon she was unable to stand. I brought her inside, and on the way in, she leaked warm, clear fluid all down my shirt. We fed her watered down gatorade (I have now read not to do that, but I didnt know what to do at the time), and she died at midnight. A week later our Golden Comet was not acting herself. I then noticed she'd laid a shelless egg, and some of the shell was hanging out of her, but there was more that had not come out yet. I brought her in, and, having a little more info under my belt, decided to give her a warm bath. I also gave her molasses water, acv water, probiotics in water, pedialyte. She made it through the night, and the next morning I gave her a warm soapy bath. She expelled the egg shell, a rubber egg, and a load of about 3 inch roundworms. I wormed them all with wazine, but didnt follow up with a broad spectrum. I followed up with verm-x instead. Then was giving them all shredded carrots with garlic, garlic and acv in their water, and then last week the Golden Comet didnt look well again. Sure enough, I saw some small worms moving in poop in their run. I panicked and gave them the only wormer I had...wazine, and have valbazen on the way to give them on the 10th day. This morning, I opened the coop and only 8 of the 9 girls came out. I opened the people door to find our cochin sprawled out on the floor of the coop. I scooped her up and brought her in. On my way in she leaked really smelly clear liquid down my shirt. I gave her a warm soapy bath, and shortly after she expelled a normal egg. Her belly looks like a red rash, and it was warm (maybe from the bath, not sure). She has been drinking vitamin/electrolyte/probios water like a fish...I would estimate about 1 1/2 to 2 cups today so far, and is now finally eating some oats with honey and water in it. Now, to get to my question...I feel like I'm trying so hard, and doing what I"m suppose to be doing, but it seems like I'm losing the battle. Everytime I think I've got them healthy I get a surprise like this. I still have a few with what I consider distended bellies. Is it something I'm doing wrong? Is it possible that out of the few hens I have, I drew the short stick and got internal layers? I'm just beside myself. I've started putting DE in their run. They get Poulin egg production plus. Fresh Kale from my garden, or other good treats...never crud. I've stopped giving them treats until they're well. I read all about people giving treats and they have no problem, but am I having trouble because of treats? I'm completely stressed and afraid every time I go out to the coop that I"m going to find a chicken either dead or sick! What am I doing wrong???
     
  2. BigDaddy'sGurl

    BigDaddy'sGurl Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 14, 2010
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    First off, [​IMG]


    I don't know much about sickness to do with egg laying, so I can't be of much help, but you have my sympathy!
     
  3. so lucky

    so lucky Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Man, I feel for you. I don't have an answer, but surely someone on this forum can help; there are so many knowledgeable chicken folks here. Did you buy your chicks from a farm store, a big hatchery, or a farm/hobby chicken person? Is there a chance they could have some disease that has taken a while to incubate?
     
  4. savingpurple

    savingpurple Chillin' With My Peeps

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    So sorry for your experiences....[​IMG] I am so new that I have nothing to offer but support. Wish you a healthy flock!
     
  5. cfdf

    cfdf Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Do you have any kind of pestisides or fertilizer in the grass where your chickens are grazing?
     
  6. spiritdance

    spiritdance Chillin' With My Peeps

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    If you actually saw worms in the feces, that's a pretty heavy load. Could be that your chicken reacted to a massive die off of worms. Even if you use a milder wormer up front, sometimes the worm load can be heavy enough to still cause some system upset. I would keep the chicken inside for a few days, continue the vitamins and electrolytes, and watch the food intake. If she keeps eating and drinking with no recurrence of the debilitated behavior, you can probably chalk it up as another learning experience and just keep them on a regular worming schedule from now on.

    ETA: another thing it could be is "red skin" > http://www.worldpoultry.net/diseases/erysipelas-d12.html
     
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2011
  7. SpeckledHills

    SpeckledHills Chillin' With My Peeps

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    roz--I read this & another thread you posted recently about things you've done to care for your chickens' health, and I just want to say I'm sorry for the problems you've encountered but it sounds like you are doing an exemplary & conscientious job of giving your chickens great treatment. I hope the problems are getting settled down at your place & wish you the best. [​IMG]
     

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