Belgian Duccles - Colours

chookchooks123

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I would like to get into breeding duccles, but i’m still struggling to understand the colours and genetics and such.
(I live in Australia, for context)

A few questions i have are -

Where does the colour ‘silver milliefleur’ come from?
Where does ‘silver porcelain’ come from?
What colours are best to be breed with a millifleur roo?

What would you get if you bred these colours together? -
1. Milliefleur x
a) silver porcelain
b) buff columbian
c) black mottled
d) blue

2. Silver porcelain x
a) silver milliefleur
b) buff columbian

Is ‘silver columbian’ a colour that’s available in duccles?

Hoping someone might be able to help me out a bit xx
 
Where does the colour ‘silver milliefleur’ come from?
Just like Mille Fleur, but with the silver gene instead of the gold gene.

Where does ‘silver porcelain’ come from?
That would be just like Porcelain, but with the silver gene instead of the gold gene.

What colours are best to be breed with a millifleur roo?
Other than hens of his own color, I don't know. It depends on what you are trying to achieve.

What would you get if you bred these colours together? -
1. Milliefleur x
a) silver porcelain
Sexlinks, with daughters Mille Fleur (have gold)

and sons poor-quality Silver Mille Fleur (they show the silver gene, carry the gold gene, and probably show some gold leakage as they grow up.)

Both genders of chicks will carry the lavender gene (came from the Porcelain)

1. Milliefleur x
b) buff columbian
Buff Columbian chicks, all carrying the recessive gene for mottling (that's the gene that makes the white & black bits in the Mille Fleur pattern.)

1. Milliefleur x
c) black mottled
Black mottled chicks, possibly with some leakage of gold or silver in various places as they grow up.

1. Milliefleur x
d) blue
Half of chicks black, half of chicks blue
All carry the recessive gene for mottling (which is what makes the white dots in the Black Mottled and the white & black specks in Mille Fleur)

2. Silver porcelain x
a) silver milliefleur
Silver Mille Fleur, carrying the lavender gene

(Chance of some Mille Fleur daughters, showing gold, if the "Silver Porcelain" rooster was also carrying the gold gene. If he does not show any red, gold, or yellow leakage, he probably does not carry the gold gene.)

2. Silver porcelain x
b) buff columbian
Daughters silver columbian
Sons silver columbian carrying gold, may show gold leakage as they grow
Both genders carrying the lavender gene

Both genders may have the "silver" parts yellowish or otherwise not nice looking, because they don't have all the right modifier genes to make the silver look good

Is ‘silver columbian’ a colour that’s available in duccles?
Genetically possible, yes (breed Silver Mille Fleur or Silver Porcelain with Buff Columbian and you should get some, but I don't know how long it will take to breed ones that look good.)

I only know of 3 colors, normal milli, porcelain, and lemon milli.
The American Poultry Association recognizes a lot more than that, but OP is in Australia.
(I live in Australia, for context)
https://sites.google.com/site/belgianbantamclub/theaustralianstandardforbelgianbantams
This page says it has the Australian standard for Belgian Bantams.
It lists every color OP has mentioned, and quite a few more.

Hoping someone might be able to help me out a bit xx

https://sites.google.com/site/belgianbantamclub/
This site is Australian-based, and has quite a lot of articles.
I didn't not try to reat them all, but I scrolled through the one on breeding, and it appears to deal with many of the questions you were asking. It even has some charts of what you get when you cross chickens with certain genes (I spotted charts for blue, lavender, mottled, and gold/silver).
 
What do you mean by “silver porcelain”? Do you have a picture?
IMG_20220218_171637.jpg

This is a Silver Porcelain.
 

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