are defintly from ideal. and i can prove it.i got 21 chicks sent from ideal poultry in texas to my house in ipswich mass and it was the middle of december!. every chick was alive. and just telling you there was 1 foot of snow on the ground. if one chick dies on the delivery ideal poultry will give you another whole order. thaT IS MY PROOF THAT IDEAL POULTRY IS THE BEST OF THE BEST.