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Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Hennypen, Dec 24, 2010.
What breeds have a black body and orange or red hackles?
French black copper marans.
Is this a roo or hen? Can you post a pic? Then we can tell.
I don't have any, I think that color pattern would be nice looking.
But the hens are solid black. ??
The Black Star sex-link hen is solid black with gold feathers in the hackle & breast.
Sex Links don't count, as 1) it is not a true color that breeds true and 2) the males are barred.
The color you're referring to is Brown-Red, aka "Black Copper." Females do indeed vary, and can be solid black. Most of my Black Copper Marans hens/pullets are solid black, while all the cockerels are red hackled.
Otherwise, if it is ONLY the hackles that are red, and not the saddle or shoulders in males - You're thinking of just plain "rusty" black, which is usually A) poor breeding of black or B) a cross of black and another color like brown-red.
So it doesn't exist in a true breed... as in the hackles are ALWAYS red/orange with a solid black body. I've seen it the other way. Orange body black hackles. ??
Orange body with black hackles and no other black feathers is either A) impossible or B) poor/cross breeding of colors like buff. You'd need black in tail, as it links right to black in the hackles. (usually a columbian or wheaten trait) Especially in males. Now, females like this can have very little black in the tail, but it goes right back to very little in the neck. And vice versa (a lot of neck, a lot of tail)
Breeds like hatchery quality New Hampshires have very little black, but it is there, and in the neck, tail, and primary feathers. Buff birds, if bred poorly, can have black pop up in the tail, neck, or even body. Wheaten females and even males with too much red/wheaten coloring can be mostly orange, but still have black tails.
Course, someone can prove me wrong, but that's how I've seen it all along.
ok... yes black in the tail... forgot that usually goes along with black hackles.
I want a black bodied hen with a bright red head/neck.