black + fawn/white = ?

Discussion in 'Ducks' started by rainplace, Jan 26, 2010.

  1. rainplace

    rainplace Interstellar Duck Academy

    I'm separating out my flock this week and since I had one of my black runners poached by a coyote, I'm wondering if I could put one of my f/w females in the breeding pen with the blacks. Would I be able to tell at hatch which ones were from the f/w?
     
  2. 1lpoock

    1lpoock Spruce Creek Waterfowl

    Apr 20, 2009
    Sandusky, Ohio
    Not sure what your saying....you have a pen with fawn and whites and a pen with blacks?
     
  3. rainplace

    rainplace Interstellar Duck Academy

    I have a pen of blacks without enough females. I want to add a f/w in the mix. If I do this, I want to know if I'll be able to know at hatch which ducklings come from the f/w so I can sell them right away.
     
  4. rainplace

    rainplace Interstellar Duck Academy

    I would hate to have black looking runners that weren't pure and sell them thinking they were. That's what I want to avoid.
     
  5. 1lpoock

    1lpoock Spruce Creek Waterfowl

    Apr 20, 2009
    Sandusky, Ohio
    Oh I see....I'm thinking there would be some noticable difference but then again there is someone one here that has a pekin/khaki mix and you would never know it has a pekin parent. White is definetly a recessive gene so I'm not to sure?
     
  6. shiloh04

    shiloh04 Out Of The Brooder

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    I think the runner pattern is dominant, so not sure how that would affect black. But a f/w runner doesn't have the white gene the same as a pekin or other pure white duck, so that wouldn't be an issue.
     
  7. rainplace

    rainplace Interstellar Duck Academy

    Quote:So would the ducklings be black from the f/w female? Or something else?
     
  8. Sweetfolly

    Sweetfolly Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Here's a link to a page that I've found invaluable to understanding Runner duck color genetics: http://www.luckyhit.net/ducks01.htm

    Although, I still can't figure out what's going to happen when I cross my white duck to my buff drake (mainly because I don't know what other colors my little white duck, Maizie, carries "underneath" the white). I know that all their daughters will get a buff and a brown dilution though (from their daddy), so the colors of the ducklings should be interesting. I can hardly wait!
     
  9. CityChicker

    CityChicker Chillin' With My Peeps

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    You would most definitely be able to tell which ones are from the Fawn and White. Black doesn't have blue dilution (even if out of blue). Fawn and White has double blue dilution (homozygous or Bl/Bl). Every single offspring of the Fawn and White would have some degree of blue. If your Fawn and White is the typical US Fawn and White with lots of white (homozygous Runner pattern or R/R), then all the offspring would also have some degree of excess white, usually around the nape of the neck and on the primaries. Overall, you will end up with a lot of mismarked birds and probably some interesting colors, but definitely you will be able to tell who is from the Fawn and White. [​IMG]
     
  10. rainplace

    rainplace Interstellar Duck Academy

    Quote:That link was like reading greek!
     

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