Black Marans Bantam Breeders needed for ABA/APA recognization

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by edgarmongold, Aug 20, 2011.

  1. edgarmongold

    edgarmongold Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Need breeders that are interested in breeding and showing the Black Marans bantam according to the MCCUSA's official standard.

    What we have are project birds that need refined in type and egg color.

    Email me at: [email protected]
     
  2. flgardengirl

    flgardengirl Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Sunny side up :)
    I don't have any tiny black marans but I have a few really small blue hens.
     
  3. edgarmongold

    edgarmongold Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Black works well with Blue.

    You do know how the Blue gene works with Black, Splash and Blue?

    What we have now are project birds that have feathered feet but need the egg color gene worked back in.

    Need breeders that are willing to be committed to breeding Black Marans bantams for ABA/APA recognization.

    These means getting them out to shows and promoting them.
     
  4. HenThymes

    HenThymes pippin ain't easy

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    Edgar, I have one small trio of bantams, two pullets one black and one cuckoo and one very small cuckoo cockerel. They are 4 months old now and seem to be slow in maturing. These are all clean legged, lost my feathered legged to an accident. [​IMG] I do plan to cross this little group when ready to see what I get and will be happy to show some down the road when I feel they meet Standard (or close to) and are ready. [​IMG]

    They were hatched from the all three egg colors on the bottom row, top row for example of a cream egg & a tan orp egg.
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  5. flgardengirl

    flgardengirl Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Sunny side up :)
    I do know how the blue gene works [​IMG] My two very small blue marans females do not have feathered shanks. Thier egg color is decent for blues not super dark but what you would expect for blue marans. I have a pure black cockeral with feathered shanks but not sure how large he is gonna turn out yet. He looks to be about average size so far. I had 3 small blue girls but one died she was the grandmother and the other two are her daughter and grandaughter. The 'grand daughter is the smallest and still a pullet but I'm guessing she won't get much bigger. I'd say she is half the size of a marans hen and her mother is a little larger than half size of a normal marans hen. I lost my good blue roo (thier father) so will have to use this black fellow I'm hoping his feathered shanks will pass to the next generation and I will at least get some small feathered shanked babies.

    How small are the black marans you are using? Are they true bantam sized?
     
  6. edgarmongold

    edgarmongold Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:I am working with project birds now as most Marans bantams are about half the size of a LF and that is way to big size wise and weight wise.

    Working with Langshan cross to reduce the size of the Marans bantams and will be using a Cuckoo Marans bantam male, clean legged on feather legged females.

    Hope to reintroduce the dark egg genes into the strain while decreasing size and maintaining feather legs.

    Selected Langshan bantams as Langshan was one of the breeds in the LF Marans.
     
  7. rockyspringsfarm

    rockyspringsfarm Out Of The Brooder

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    Where would one acquire really good Black Langshan bantams to use as foundation stock for the Bantam Marans project ?
     
  8. edgarmongold

    edgarmongold Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:I am using 3/4 Langshan and 1/4 Cochin for type and will breed this combination to Cuckoo Marans bantam.

    It has a shorter tail like is required for Marans.

    One would not really want the longer legs that are on Langshan.

    I got my combination from Joe Oakley from OH.
     
  9. HenThymes

    HenThymes pippin ain't easy

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    Discovered today that what I thought was one of my olive eggers is actually a bantam marans pullet. She is solid black and yes a bit bigger than my cuckoo bantam pullet and twice as big as my cuckoo cockerel as he is very small. So what I thought was only going to be a trio of bantam marans now turns into a quad, cuckoo cockerel & pullet and two solid black pullets! The good news is that the one black pullet has just given me her first two eggs in the past couple of days and the others should be starting right behind her. I have also noticed the cockerel starting to try and breed the cuckoo pullet. Will be interested to start hatching and see the results. Would like to know what it will take to possibly show a couple of them starting next year. [​IMG]
     
  10. gilavina

    gilavina Chillin' With My Peeps

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    This spring I hatched out my first bantam BCM marans pullets, no cockerels yet, but plan on using my smallest BCM boy over these small girls and selecting only the smallest for breeding. I have 5 currently growing out, thought I had 4, but realized I was missing one as she has decided to jump ship into an older pen. I weighed two of them earlier this week and one was 2.2 pounds and the other was 2.4 pounds, so not all that far off the ideal weight. They are not laying yet, but hopefully before too long i'll see what the color looks like on the eggs. The small BCM cock I have comes from a nice dark egg, so that should help me out in the spring.
     

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