Black sex-link pullet actually rooster??

starsteemer

Hatching
Aug 25, 2019
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Couldn't find the exact month i bought our 3 black sexlink and 3 amberlink chicks at a Tractor Supply in spring, but they're all at sexual maturity now, though the hens haven't begun laying yet.
However as the chicks matured, 2 began to display every male chicken characteristic, and yet every time i tried to get confirmation i was firmly told sexlinks sexed as female could only ever be female.

Yet, One of the black sexlink and amberlinks had long sickle tail feathers, huge comb and wattles, would crow at all hours, and mount and try to mate our hens. The male was black with golden speckles, very obvious pointy saddle and cape feathers, and would strut and dance for the hens. Same with the amberlink, except his colors remained entirely amber, and he didn't have sickle feathers. Looking it up has shown that the black sexlink should be barred if male (he wasn't), but others have said his colors were normal for some sexlink females

Regardless, i couldn't have them fighting eachother over our four hens, as 2 other rhode island red chicks we got straight run were also undeniably roosters as they matured. 4 roosters fighting over and mating 4 hens and crowing all hours was unnaceptable, so with a heavy heart and a lot of tears, i killed and processed them for the first time in my life. When processing them, in each one, i found unmistakable testes. I've looked at diagrams and read articles on rooster anatomy to confirm that indeed, some of the organs found inside were definitely testes

So my question is how can everyone be so certain sexlinks bought as pullets are undeniably pullets? After the deed was done i wanted to know the accuracy of sexlinks and that's when i found people having trouble confirming the sex of their supposed 100% accurate sexlinks, which brought doubts into my mind on whether i'd killed an innocent hen or a guilty rooster, which after further introspection i was super sure they were all roosters.
I can't provide pictures as i unfortunately didn't have the forsight to take any as evidence, but for some context i am a first-time backyard chicken keeper, and these were my first chickens. Recently getting fall chicks (6 brahma pullets, 4 leghorn pullets, and 2 barred rock straight runs) also motivated us to eliminate the roosters, as we couldn't be sure we wouldn't get more roosters in the new batch.

I guess what i'm wondering is if anyone else has encountered this seemingly rare issue with sexlinks that are supposed to be female being roosters, or if i'm somehow mistaken and killed 2 innocent hens for the crime of being too masculine?
 

jwyles

Crossing the Road
May 8, 2017
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Couldn't find the exact month i bought our 3 black sexlink and 3 amberlink chicks at a Tractor Supply in spring, but they're all at sexual maturity now, though the hens haven't begun laying yet.
However as the chicks matured, 2 began to display every male chicken characteristic, and yet every time i tried to get confirmation i was firmly told sexlinks sexed as female could only ever be female.

Yet, One of the black sexlink and amberlinks had long sickle tail feathers, huge comb and wattles, would crow at all hours, and mount and try to mate our hens. The male was black with golden speckles, very obvious pointy saddle and cape feathers, and would strut and dance for the hens. Same with the amberlink, except his colors remained entirely amber, and he didn't have sickle feathers. Looking it up has shown that the black sexlink should be barred if male (he wasn't), but others have said his colors were normal for some sexlink females

Regardless, i couldn't have them fighting eachother over our four hens, as 2 other rhode island red chicks we got straight run were also undeniably roosters as they matured. 4 roosters fighting over and mating 4 hens and crowing all hours was unnaceptable, so with a heavy heart and a lot of tears, i killed and processed them for the first time in my life. When processing them, in each one, i found unmistakable testes. I've looked at diagrams and read articles on rooster anatomy to confirm that indeed, some of the organs found inside were definitely testes

So my question is how can everyone be so certain sexlinks bought as pullets are undeniably pullets? After the deed was done i wanted to know the accuracy of sexlinks and that's when i found people having trouble confirming the sex of their supposed 100% accurate sexlinks, which brought doubts into my mind on whether i'd killed an innocent hen or a guilty rooster, which after further introspection i was super sure they were all roosters.
I can't provide pictures as i unfortunately didn't have the forsight to take any as evidence, but for some context i am a first-time backyard chicken keeper, and these were my first chickens. Recently getting fall chicks (6 brahma pullets, 4 leghorn pullets, and 2 barred rock straight runs) also motivated us to eliminate the roosters, as we couldn't be sure we wouldn't get more roosters in the new batch.

I guess what i'm wondering is if anyone else has encountered this seemingly rare issue with sexlinks that are supposed to be female being roosters, or if i'm somehow mistaken and killed 2 innocent hens for the crime of being too masculine?

More than likely your rooster you bought as a black sex link is not a sex link. And I'm not 100% sure on this but I don't believe amberlinks are a sex link breed. Arent they all, males and females, a sort of ruddy cream color?
 

MissMarple

Songster
Aug 3, 2019
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Following because I'd love to hear opinons on this as well as I have a BSL that is already acting very much like a cockerel and am wondering the same.
 

Frazzemrat1

Free Ranging
May 8, 2017
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Eastern Connecticut
If properly bred, sex links can only be the gender that their coloring dictates. It would be genetically and biologically impossible for a properly bred black sex link pullet to be barred, or a red sex link pullet to be completely white with some red.

If improperly bred, then all bets are off, and coloring has a 50/50 chance of correctly indicating gender, same as any other breed or hybrid.

I assume you bought these guys at a chain feed store? like Rural King or TSC? if so, they source their chicks from hatcheries... who have been mass producing these guys and know how to breed them right.
If they came from a local feed store, not a chain but a mom n pop... they could be sourcing their chicks from a local farmer, who may or may not know what he's doing. Same if you got them from a back yard breeder.

So, if you got them from a chain feed store, then the likelihood is that they were miss marked. From your description, the 'red sex link' rooster could have been an orpington. Pictures, now that their in adult plumage, could help identify what they are for sure.
 

Frazzemrat1

Free Ranging
May 8, 2017
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Eastern Connecticut
I apologize, I just saw that you just joined our wonderful flock!
Welcome!!!!
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cstephens1987

Crowing
Apr 25, 2019
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If properly bred, sex links can only be the gender that their coloring dictates. It would be genetically and biologically impossible for a properly bred black sex link pullet to be barred, or a red sex link pullet to be completely white with some red.

If improperly bred, then all bets are off, and coloring has a 50/50 chance of correctly indicating gender, same as any other breed or hybrid.

I assume you bought these guys at a chain feed store? like Rural King or TSC? if so, they source their chicks from hatcheries... who have been mass producing these guys and know how to breed them right.
If they came from a local feed store, not a chain but a mom n pop... they could be sourcing their chicks from a local farmer, who may or may not know what he's doing. Same if you got them from a back yard breeder.

So, if you got them from a chain feed store, then the likelihood is that they were miss marked. From your description, the 'red sex link' rooster could have been an orpington. Pictures, now that their in adult plumage, could help identify what they are for sure.
Agreed completely. Show us pics and we can help you out more, but genetically speaking properly bred sex links should not be possible to mislabel as they are completely obvious at hatch. It is quite common however for feed stores to mix up bins and for their employees to not have a clue what they're doing and sell you the wrong thing.
 

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