Blood blisters on the vent?????

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Aizzylew, Aug 24, 2013.

  1. Aizzylew

    Aizzylew Out Of The Brooder

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    So we have had a few bloody smudges on our eggs the last couple days. Today we noticed that our white leghorn was hiding under our ramp with her head down. When I went over to check on her I noticed that her bottom was all bloody. I got her out and had read on here about a prolapsed vent and thought maybe that is what was going on. I soaked her bottom in warm water gloved up and used a bit of Vaseline on the glove to do an inspection. When I lifted her tail feathers I noticed that there seemed to be 3 small blood blisters on the left edge of the vent which I thought might be from pushing. I did and internal inspection to see if there might be broken shell but I couldn't feel anything. How far should I explore? We have isolated her into her own cage and covered it so she is in the dark to try and hault her egg production. We have provided her with water and we will limit her food. But on my inspection it seemed as if the blood was coming up from the bottom rather than from the top. The bottom is the egg track right? I am worried about her. Her comb has fallen over and it is no longer bright red. Her eggs have been pretty large the last few days but today's was much smaller and there was no blood. I did not see any vi sable pecking damage. The picture shows you what I can see. What should I do? Any ideas? They really don't get anything unusual to eat mostly layer food with a small amount of scratch about 3 times a week.Oyster shell is available to them when they want it. The other girls seem fine. The picture is after the warm water soak. There really doesn't seems to be anything out that could be pushed back inside...
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  2. ten chicks

    ten chicks Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Yes,keep her separated. Keep this clean,it is possible she has been pecked by other hens,this is actually a fair amount of blood. I see no prolapse. How does her poop look,any other symptoms? If she keeps bleeding from vent,other than a wound,i would consider Coccidiosis.
     
  3. Aizzylew

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    How would she come in contact with Coccidiosis? Our girls are not free range at all. If they are out it is supervised for only about a half hour each day before bedtime. Her poo seems mostly normal a bit runnier but I can't tell if its because of the blood. Yes, it was a fair amount of blood. Our girls all grew up together and I have never seen them peck each other at all. It is weird because we introduced 2 new baby's over night and were up to see them all get up as we are starting the sleeping together process each night to get them introduced.She was fine at 530 this morning. Then when we left for breakfast this am at about 9am she was also fine. In laying an egg and again there was no blood on the eggs. With all that blood we thought there would be more evidence of where it happened but we couldn't find any blood evidence in the all white coop.. Then at about 1030 we found her all bloody and I mean really bloody.I can not see any wounds and the blood really seams to be coming from inside based on my investigation. How far in do I need to check her for the broken egg pieces. I am all new to this and am terrified I am going to hurt her more rather than help her.
     
  4. cafarmgirl

    cafarmgirl Overrun With Chickens

    Wow she is really swollen. I would think this was a prolapse. I would keep her separate from the others, apply Preparation H to help get the swelling down and see how it goes. If you have checked inside and not found anything then I wouldn't be trying to go further in. The purple, bruised looking areas on the left could be from being pecked by the other hens, I don't know. Even though they were raised together if they notice something different they'll peck at it.

    I would bring her inside, treat with Prep H and just watch her. I would not limit her food, that will just weaken her. It is possible too that something has gone wrong farther up in the reproductive tract that is causing the blood. Sometimes you just have to do what you can and hope for the best.
     
  5. Wyandottes7

    Wyandottes7 Overrun With Chickens

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    X2. Honey and Witch Hazel are also excellent at reducing swelling, as are warm water baths.
     
  6. ten chicks

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    Not saying she has cocci,but it is a consideration. Chickens DO NOT have to be free ranged to have Cocci. When did you introduce the new chicks? Cocci is a parasitic infection of the intestinal tract,it is spread by wild birds,bringing in new chickens to your flock,your clothes/shoes/hands/feed utensils etc. Some symptoms of cocci are runny/watery poop(may or may not contain blood,depends on which of the 9 strains it is)fluffed feathers,lethargic,not eating/drinking properly,weight loss,general look of unwell. It is something you need to be informed about b/c a overload/outbreak can happen at anytime.
     
  7. Aizzylew

    Aizzylew Out Of The Brooder

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    So her poo is looking completely normal at this time no more bleeding. We have been letting the new chicks and our flockers socialize now outside for that half hour for about a month. Last night was the 1st night that we put them into the big coop after the flockers went to bed. So it was probably 9ish to 520ish this am. So about 8 hours. We have had the other chicks since they were about 4 weeks old and nothing weird with their poo. I'm thinking its an issue with her reproductive system. We are going to keep her in the dark and try the witch hazel and the honey and hope for the best and that we caught her in time to stop her egg for tomorrow.
     
  8. Aizzylew

    Aizzylew Out Of The Brooder

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    Thank you so much. We did the warm water bath. We will wash her again in the am to try and get more of the mess out of her feathers but all that stuff is really sticky and it doesn't seem to come out with just the warm water. Do we do both the witch hazel and the honey. Like the witch hazel for a mild antiseptic and the honey for the swelling or just do one or the other???? I want to help her in any way that we can. Thanks
     
  9. Aizzylew

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    She has been in since this am when I first posted. We gave her back her food after we let her poo a few times. Looks like the poo is ok. I hope we have caught her in time so that she doesn't lay an egg so she can rest.
     
  10. Aizzylew

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    So keeping her in the dark has successfully kept her from laying an egg for 2 days now. Her swelling is down all most all the way. But the left side of her vent is still very bruised looking. She doesn't seem as sensitive when I touch it tho so I am thinking that is good. However she is very weak. She has not really been eating anything much. We couldn't even get her to eat meal worms or greens. Tonight we finally got her to eat some lettuce and some grass. She also took a peck at a meal worm or too. She still wines when she poos tho. So when I did her warm water soak tonight I did a little exam and her poo is very grainy and thick. We got her to drink water tonight and she acted like she had not seen water in days. She has had it available to her but I guess just not feeling well enough to drink. Anyway she drank a lot tonight. I am thinking that she might be constipated at this point. The poo I was able to get out almost reminded me of the layer pellet when she would have eaten it with a bit of moisture making it a thick grainy paste. Any suggestions????? We did put a bit of electrolite in her water to help her get hydrated faster. But any other ideas?????
     

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