Bloody Piles. Stress or something else?

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by ContessaKris, Sep 26, 2014.

  1. ContessaKris

    ContessaKris Chillin' With My Peeps

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    My chicks are about 18-19 weeks. This morning I discovered this.
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    Never had a problem before. My concern is Coccidiosis or if it could happen from stress. I sorta stressed them out last night. I had to freshen the coop and I did it too late and they were already in for the night. They ended up hiding in the corner. The one on the bottom of the hiding pile is the one who is having trouble today with bloody stool or urate.
    If it's stress, fine. I won't be doing it again. If it's something else and that can kill them quick, I need to know so I can go get meds today. Any suggestions? Very water almost none existent poop coming out. Mostly bloody liquid.
     
  2. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive Chicken Obsessed Premium Member

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    I would get some Corid (amprollium) from the cattle section of your feed store, and start treatment for coccidiosis. That is a lot of blood, and the Corid won't hurt them, but you may lose some if you delay treating them. My chickens have been stressed during periods of cleaning, building new roosts, or moving nest boxes around, and I have never seen bloody stools before. Corid dosage is 2 tsp of the liquid, or 1/5 tsp of the powder per gallon of water for 5-7 days. Give some vitamins and probiotics for several days after completing Corid.
     
  3. Papas Chickens

    Papas Chickens Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thats to much blood for intestinal shed, it might be Cocci or maybe internal bleeding from being smashed by the orhers cant be 100% though. I clean my coop and run at night sometimes when I get home late from work and never had that problem.
     
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  4. ContessaKris

    ContessaKris Chillin' With My Peeps

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    On the meds, do I separate the chicken from others and give her her own water and food? If I do that, how long? Think that might stress her more to be separated though. Do I administer the meds directly into mouth or into the water or what? New chicken farmer here, can you tell?! Lol
     
  5. Papas Chickens

    Papas Chickens Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I would treat them all, the meds go in the water.
     
  6. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive Chicken Obsessed Premium Member

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    Yes, treat them all at once for 5-7 days so that you don't have to treat each one separately. Raise your feeders and waterers even with their backs so they are less likely to get droppings in there, since that is how it is spread.
     
  7. ContessaKris

    ContessaKris Chillin' With My Peeps

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    At feed store, non available. He said to order Tylon online. They'll die by the time it gets here! Any other things I can use? Looking at Noromycin, Liquamycon, Biomycin, Duramycin, Noromectin, ivomec. Gotta find something!
     
  8. Eggcessive

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    Tylan will not treat coccidiosis--it is used in respiratory diseases. Call your feed store ask and ask if they have sulfadimethoxine or Sulmet, since both will treat the worst 2 strains of coccidiosis. Sulfadimethoxine is sometimes called Di-Methox. Corid, Sulmet, and sulfadimethoxine will be located in the cattle medicines. If you have any friends with cattle or chickens, it may help to ask them for those medicines since they are frequently used in cattle. I can give you dosage info for those if needed.
     
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  9. Eggcessive

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    Noromycin, Liquimycin, and Biomycin are all brands of injectable oxytetracycline. Although in the literature for those drugs it doesn't list coccidiosis as an illness treated by oxytetracycline, but in one link in Merck Manual listed below, it says that oral oxytetracycline can be used in the feed to treat coccidiosis. I would try at some other feed or farm stores to locate Corid or another brand name--Ampromed, or amprollium. Many people will also use the sulfa drugs, Sulfadimethoxine or Sulmet.

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    Drugs for Treatment of Coccidiosis in Chickens a

    Drug


    Feed or Water


    Use Level, Treatment Duration


    Withdrawal Time (days)


    Amprolium

    Water

    0.012%–0.024%, 3–5 days; 0.006%, 1–2 wk

    0

    Chlortetracycline

    Feed

    0.022% + 0.8% calcium, not more than 3 wk

    0

    Oxytetracycline

    Feed

    0.022% + 0.18%–0.55% calcium, not more than 5 days

    3

    Sodium sulfachloropyrazine monohydrate

    Water

    0.03%, 3 days

    4

    Sulfadimethoxine

    Water

    0.05%, 6 days

    5

    Sulfamethazine (sulfadimidine)

    Water

    0.1%, 2 days; 0.05%, 4 days

    10

    Toltrazuril

    Water

    25 ppm, 2 days

    NAb

    a Approved in the USA, except for toltrazuril


    b Not applicable
     
  10. beausonge

    beausonge Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Go to the feed store and get MEDICATED chick starter. It has amprolium in and you know they will ALL be getting it.
     

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