Bloody Poop?

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by elizardbreath, Jul 10, 2016.

  1. elizardbreath

    elizardbreath Out Of The Brooder

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    Hi there,

    I'm fairly new to chicken keeping and while the internet is a great place for information, sometimes I like "talking" to people who know more than I do, so I'm hoping you folks out there can help me...

    I've noticed some diarrhea lately, but it's been warm (mid to high 80s) and since it wasn't bloody I chalked it up to increased water consumption. (But I did give them plain yogurt for a few days.) This morning I noticed what looks like blood in a poop I saw in the chicken yard. After looking through other poop photos, it I don't think it looks like intestinal lining,so I got concerned.

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    Some background:

    We are on an island in Northern Michigan and we've got 4 hens - 2 IB, 1 BSL 1 Ameraucana. The IBs are about a year and a half old, the BSL is older and I don't know how old the Ameraucana is. They technically are owned by a friend of ours who lets us "borrow" them for the summer. (She has about 20 - 25 and sells eggs.) All four were actively laying when they left my friend's farm (where they fee range.)

    Currently they are in a 4 X 4 coop within a 10 X 10 fenced-in run. Attached to that is an additional area with a low fence area that they are let into when we are in the backyard and can supervise them (since its just a flimsy fence.) They are let out into this area pretty much every day, usually twice a day. The coop gets afternoon sun, but the coop is raised so they can get shade during that 2 to 5 pm warm time. Inside the coop they have two roosting bars and two nest boxes.

    The hens moved in on April 1st and we started getting eggs in early June. Generally we get one brown egg a day. For a while there were a few green ones and in early June there was a week or two where we had a number of two egg days. No eggs for the last three days.

    We're feeding layer crumble with oyster shell and wormer mixed in, occasional table scraps (after making sure they are safe,) they also have water in the coop as well as out in the run.

    It's been very dry this summer. A few days ago we had our first day of significant rain since early June.

    I keep the area clean. I scoop the poop from the coop and the run virtually every day. (We have close neighbors on one side and I don't want them complaining about any smell.)

    There are horses in a corral around the corner from us.

    I called my friend for her advise to see if she had ever dealt with this before and her attitude was essentially that chickens are cheap and they sometimes die. I'd rather treat them humanely. If this was my cat, I would take her to the vet, but the nearest vet that I can find that deals with poultry is several hours away. So I'm turning to you all for advise.

    Any thoughts / suggestions you have for me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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  2. CluckerCottage

    CluckerCottage Chillin' With My Peeps

    You say wormer is mixed in with their feed-- are you saying that you are continuously worming them?
    How long have they been eating this mix?
     
  3. elizardbreath

    elizardbreath Out Of The Brooder

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    Wormer has been mixed in the feed since the last week in May or the first week in June. I mix it in EVERY time I fill the feeder.
     
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  4. CluckerCottage

    CluckerCottage Chillin' With My Peeps

    I don't think continuously worming them since the last week of May is wise.
    What wormer are you using? Is continual dosing recommended by the manufacturer?
     
  5. elizardbreath

    elizardbreath Out Of The Brooder

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    I'll double check the directions...
     
  6. elizardbreath

    elizardbreath Out Of The Brooder

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    This is what I've been using.

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  7. CluckerCottage

    CluckerCottage Chillin' With My Peeps

    You should really follow the manufacturer's instructions:

    Rooster Booster Triple Action Multi-Wormer
    Manufacturer's Dosage Instructions: Top dress one (1/3 ounce) scoop for every one pound of feed or mix one 1.25lb container with 50 lbs of feed for 3 days in a row at the beginning of the month.

    Too much wormer could be causing intestinal lining shedding.
     
  8. elizardbreath

    elizardbreath Out Of The Brooder

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    Did you find those directions on line? They DO NOT match the directions printed on the container!

    The "for three days at the beginning of the month" part is not on the container. There is also no mention of additional instructions listed on their website, so I assumed it was continuous. Well, you know what they say about assuming.

    Thank you so much CluckerCottage for helping me with this! I knew the folks on BYC would be helpful.

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  9. CluckerCottage

    CluckerCottage Chillin' With My Peeps

    [​IMG]Yes, found the dosage instructions online.
    Bless your heart you are more than welcome.
    Glad I could help you.
    I wish you the best!
     
  10. Wyorp Rock

    Wyorp Rock Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    Can you take a fecal sample to the vet?

    It could be Cocci since you have had recent rain, if you feel like that may be what it is, then you would treat with Corid - Corid dosage is 1 1/2 teaspoons Corid powder per gallon or2 teaspoons of 9.6% Corid liquid per gallon.

    Give for 5-7 days - make sure this is the ONLY water available during that time period. Mix a fresh batch at least once a day.

    After they finish treatment offer some poultry vitamins and probiotics/plain yogurt.


    As far as the wormer goes, some people do use that, and if I understand correctly depending on which product it is you will have to offer continuously for it to be "effective". It does not contain a "traditional" worming medication like @CluckerCottage is thinking of (Valbazen or Fenbendazole) it contains an antibiotic "approved" for poultry called Hygromycin B. The product can be controversial and there are good/bad/neutral reviews and opinions on using it. A little research will help you decide if it is the right product for you.

    Just my thoughts[​IMG]
    You can search here on BYC and net to find quite a bit of info on the subject. Here's just a couple
    http://hencam.com/henblog/2014/05/wormer-warning/
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/832102/rooster-booster-multi-wormer-why-wont-my-chickens-eat-it
     
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