Blue Wheaton and Blue Wheaton Splash questions

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by HidingInTheHenHouse, Oct 21, 2009.

  1. HidingInTheHenHouse

    HidingInTheHenHouse Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have Ameraucanas. Roosters are Buff, Blue Wheaton, and Blue Wheaton Splash.
    If I cross any of these roosters with my black pullets, what will resultant colors be? Also, I have one silver pullet. Would any of the roosters work with crosses for her, or would everything just be mutt colored?
     
  2. pips&peeps

    pips&peeps There is no "I" in Ameraucana

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    Only mix the wheaten varieties together otherwise you have mutts.

    I've got lots of extra cockerels running around........
     
  3. HidingInTheHenHouse

    HidingInTheHenHouse Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Yes, you certainly do have many roosters from your lines at this house!! So no chance for a blue offspring? I thought the blacks could carry the blue gene, so mixing a Blue Wheaton with a black you might get a blue? I really like the wheatens and the blues, but I only have black hens.
     
  4. pips&peeps

    pips&peeps There is no "I" in Ameraucana

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    You need a splash cockerel to bred to the black pullets.

    The black and blue birds do not carry the pattern genes the wheatens do. I would not recommend mixing them.

    This is what I recommend for new breeders:

    Buff X Buff
    Silver X Silver
    Black X Blue X Splash
    Wheaten X Blue Wheaten X Splash Wheaten
    White X White (except you can do a cross to black to improve the lines, just don't breed the crosses together, breed to a pure white)

    There are some other crosses you can do, but it takes a couple years to get back to original color and don't recommend new breeders to do them.
     
  5. texasgal

    texasgal Brood with an Attitude

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    Good info .. thanks!
     
  6. HidingInTheHenHouse

    HidingInTheHenHouse Chillin' With My Peeps

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    So does the splash blue wheaten cockeral count as a splash for breeding to black? Maybe he isn't really a splash, but he is very light colored.

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    He is the light blue one with the wheaten head/neck, facing the right side of the picture.
     
  7. pips&peeps

    pips&peeps There is no "I" in Ameraucana

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    No, he is still wheaten, not a regular blue/black/splash.
     
  8. HidingInTheHenHouse

    HidingInTheHenHouse Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Darn. Well, guess you better put me on the waiting list for eggs from your blues if your selling next spring.
     
  9. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    Quote:Blacks cannot carry blue. If they did, they would be blue [​IMG]

    What might be confusing you is that the black genes are the E-alleles, whereas blue is the Bl-alleles. In the case of wheatens, they are E^Wh. Females have very little black pigment; males, as with most E alleles look very simiar regardless of their E allele. The blue gene acts by diluting black pigment.

    With breeding the blue gene, which is incompletely dominant, meaning that one copy causes a bird who is intermediate to those who carries two copies and those with zero copies. If you do a punett square of the results of breeding a blue bird to a not-blue (black) bird, half the outcome will be blue and the other half black. If you do the same square for two birds who are blue, half will be blue, 1/4 black and 1/4 splash.
     

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