Breeding Mottled d'uccle question

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by ESbantams, Jan 28, 2009.

  1. ESbantams

    ESbantams Out Of The Brooder

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    Hi, I have a genetics question about breeding Mottled. What colors are recommend to breed to a Mottled. Can you breed a Mottled to a Porcelain to get some Lavenders? What is and is not recommend with breeding Mottled. Any advice would be greatly apprecaited. I have one Mottled hen and can not find any roo's, but I do have porcelain, I was not sure if I could breed them together or not. And what would it do to the color of the offspring?
     
  2. Vcomb

    Vcomb Chillin' With My Peeps

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    hmmm. that's a good question. breeding porcelain and mottled together, both of which have mottling, would yield more mottling. since the porcelain has the genes for lavendar all the chicks would carry lavendar but would not show it. therefore I believe you would get either more mottled or possibly millie fluers.
     
  3. hinkjc

    hinkjc Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    Breeding mottled to porcelain (mille fleur with two recessive lav genes) would result in 100% mottled chicks, all carrying the lavender gene.
     
  4. ESbantams

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    So would all of these be Black mottled and carry the lav. gene, correct? I understand all the babies would carry the Lav. gene but what color (phenotype) would the babies be when breeding Mottled hen X Porcelain roo?
     
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  5. hinkjc

    hinkjc Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    Yes, all would carry the lav gene.

    Take this calculator.. http://home.hetnet.nl/~h.meijers69/kruising.html

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    on "show examples" for the rooster and select the mille fleur picture. Then go down to the Lav locus and change it to lav/lav.

    Click on the "show examples" for the hen and select the mottled bird.

    Click "calculate crossing" on the bottom. You will see what they will produce. You can also select the hen to take back to the original roo (calculate new crossing) to see what the next generation will produce. F2 could be mille fleur, porcelain, mottled and lav mottled.
     
  6. pbjmaker

    pbjmaker Overrun With Chickens

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    This is a good question I was just wondering myself. I have a mottled serama (black) and then the roos are mille fleur, porcelain d'uccles or a golden lakenvelder. This is the chick produced:

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    Could it end up being lavender? It has feathered legs so one of the d'uccles has to be the dad.
     
  7. hinkjc

    hinkjc Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    Both parents would have had to carry the lav gene to produce a lavender chick. It doesn't sound like that was the case for you with the serama. If the chicks does feather in lavender/porcelain then your serama has a lav gene and matched up to the porcelain d'uccles, most likely.
     

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