Ok Folks... Here is the skinney. I see a lot of folks asking questions about both of these bators, I thought I would just set up a little Bator Test. Both of these are designed to do one thing, and that's to hatch eggs. Both just go about it a little differently. Octagon 20 Eco. This bator was ready to go right out of the box. I am sure some of you remember it when I recieved it a few months ago. But just to revisit, Set up was easy, just take it out of the box, adjust temp if needed, place rails, eggs, water and boom. The Hova was a little harder to get setup. The wafer thermostat took a little bit of time, as well as seting it for the correct temp. The egg turner was a little more challenging, infact I broke one of the trays but it works. It wasn't that hard, but was harder than the Brinsea. I have pulled my plugs. Here it is with my test hatch... This has 4 SWL, 6BA, and 12 BO crossed with RIR. Each bator has 2 SWL, 3 BA, and 6 of the BO X RIR. Lets see what happens..