Been looking for them and i really can't find any good trustworthy sites to go on with good prices. Best sportsman i remember finding was $630 "don't know if shipping was included". I did find an Octo 20 ex by brinsea with humidity pump for $370 plus shipping, but i was not to sure about the website. With a few hatches under my belt, i decided to sell my LG and go for the big time. Now realistically i didn't want to spend more than the $400 range simply because hatching more than 50 to 100 eggs at a time is a long shot for myself "at least untill i get larger quarters for more banties ". Since the octo 20 ex can only do in the 20 range with standard hen eggs " a few more with banties", it's just under what i wanted to have on hand for hatching. But then the Digital LCD GQF Sportsman 1502 can hold ALOT more eggs than what im aiming for, also the price shoot's way out of my range. So i have a few questions. Question 1. With buying an Digital Octo 20 ex for around 400 bucks with humid. pump, i would probably get a Genisis 1588 hovabator to be used as a hatcher. Reason why i would do that is because i have yet to hear of anyone hatching inside the Octo 20 ex. So with "let's say" 25 eggs in the Octo, i could also incubate another 15 eggs inside the Hova right alongside the Octo. That put's me at 40, maybe a little more, during the entire incubation. Total would come to around 550 with shipping and total price of my hova hatcher. Question 2. With spending $550 on the above pkg. to only hatch around 40 egg's, don't you think i should just bite the bullet and buy the GQF 1502 with the LCD readout and digital operation once i save up enough cash?? Question 3. Can you hatch inside the GQF 1502?? Like can you stop the rotaion of the tray's and put one tray in the middle to lay all your eggs on there sides to hatch while the incubator continues to regulate humid. and temp? I've seen a few pictures of people hatching inside their sportsman's, but didn't know if it was recommended. Thanks for reading and i hope you guy's can shed some light on my situation.