Bumblefoot? or????**UPDATED

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by artsyrobin, Aug 3, 2011.

  1. artsyrobin

    artsyrobin Artful Wings

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    Hi folks, my EE roo has swollen feet- i tried last week to see if it was bumble, but couldn't tell, last nite it is like this, i have but betadine and sugar on it, since there is obviously an infection-
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    the other issue is these white patches....

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  2. vintage00gypsy

    vintage00gypsy Out Of The Brooder

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    Have you looked into pox for the spots? It doesn't look like favus to me, or thrush, really... but I could be wrong - haven't seen favus first hand but have read on it. For the feet - I haven't seen anything like it. Poor thing.

    I sure hate seeing sooooo many people looking at your post and no replies, tho!!!

    Good luck!!!

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  3. GA_in_GA

    GA_in_GA Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I would think it is bumble foot. No idea on the white patches.
     
  4. artsyrobin

    artsyrobin Artful Wings

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    i am fairly certain thats pox, so will iodine them- the feet don't seem sore, just swollen, so will put some iodine on them tonite- its impossible to catch him till roosting time....will let you know how it goes
     
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    GA_in_GA Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Whew, poor boy! [​IMG]
     
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  8. artsyrobin

    artsyrobin Artful Wings

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    i have been dealing with it with 2 others- and discovered iodine and sugar poultice- i posted it here-
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=549500

    so that will be my first approach... can't believe i didn't see it before though, since it all cropped up, i lowered roosts and deeper litter etc
     
  9. artsyrobin

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    ok, update on this rooster, spent the last hour working on his bumble...ewwwwww.... first problem, dealing with it single handed, hubby refused to help- he's got a squeamish stomach... [​IMG]

    ok, i took progression pics as i did it, wrapped him in a towel, he didn't fight or argue at all.... he is an amazing roo- anyway, i learned one thing, don't use a water irrigator, it sprayed everywhere! [​IMG] i sprayed it periodically with bactine, not sure if i got it all either, because the bottom of his foot will have to be worked on too...
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  10. cocosandy

    cocosandy Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Yes, bumblefoot...it really has to come out when its like that. I would consider that to be a very late stage...it should just pop out but you want to scrape around really good. It compartmentalizes itself but it sends out little bumbles ot start in different areas; usually from the ball of the foot to the webbing and then further up the toes and up the legs. But get what you can out of the webbing and also the ball of the foot and put neosporin and wrap it
    I also wash it well to start and then shoot it with bactine while I go. If the chicken is laying across your lap with a towel wrapped around the wings and covering the head, they will often just go to sleep.
    I use paper towels and dab the blood. and keep up the bactine.
    but the other way is to lay the wrapped chicken sideways on your draining board by the sink and to put the feet under the faucet and keep putting the poot in the running water.

    The white thing...is it hurting him? can he eat?
    I would treat also for canker. go to foys pigeon supply and get some canker meds. I think that Randall Burkey carries canker meds too.
    I had a member of my group rescue a pigeon....as I said to her "dont bring that bird near your chickens" she said "too late"...they were only in the same room, and one of her hens (who also had an early case of bumblefoot) got canker!
    It cleared right up with the treatment. She had used a vet and the vets just give baytril for everything! I corrected him and he said I was right and suggested that she order some canker meds. ugh!
    Im not sure what she used but there is an over the counter treatment that many feed stores carry. its not just antibiotics!

    anyway, the bumble..let it rest for 3 or 4 days and then change bandages and clean it again if more gunk has come to the surface. Its a very late case, so you have to stay on top of it. I would be injecting Tylan 50 into that bumble before the neosporin and wrapping and also maybe injecting the thigh over the foot with the bumble. I try to keep it very local but chances are that one has traveled. Chicken's bodies do well in compartmentalizing infection and their pus is very thick, so its hard for it to travel, but it will eat the foot right up. I had a hen who's foot dropped off in the nestbox! I found it with the eggs, wrapped in pink vet wrap! I dont know how that happened but her foot was bad and I was worried that it was going necrotic...and I guess it stopped sending blood and it just snapped off! she lives fine now on the stump! She is a tough lady!

    Post pics of when you open it again....be careful of the tendons...you will find that its all involved with the tendons and you have to tweeze it out carefully. it actually seems to soften the tendons and the attachments to the bones...its a mess...but its worth it if you can get most of it out and the hole can heal up.
    check all of your birds because if you catch it very early when its just a small spot on the bottom of the foot its easier to get it all out and let it heal. I only had a problem because I didnt know and there was a thorn bush that died and 5 or 6 of them got it. This was some years ago and because I was so successful with that. people have been coming to me and Ive had opportunity to try many things suggested.
    I am luckily, pretty clear, and if I see any, its early.
    God job!!

    good luck!
     

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