Call Duck Color Genetics & size

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  1. josh44

    josh44 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have Blue Bibbed (Drake /Male) What Happens If I breed it to a ( White Female/hen) and (Grey Female/duck hen).


    What would the offspring look like.

    Also If i have an extra duck hen she's a good size duck hen, almost the size of a mallard, I was going to cull her. what happens if I breed her to a smaller drake ? would the ducklings be small or just cull like the mother.


    Thank You,
     
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  2. Sweetfolly

    Sweetfolly Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:You won't know what happens with the Bibbed Drake to the White duck until you try it - White is a "masking" color that blocks all other pigment. She could be virtually ANY color "underneath" the white. I have three Call ducklings that came from a Butterscotch x White mating, and they hatched out Blue Pied - they all got a dose of the blue dilution from the Butterscotch Drake, but the White duck must have been carrying both Extended Black and the Pied (sometimes called the "Runner Pattern", because it's the pattern you see on a Fawn & White Runner) gene.

    With the Bibbed drake to the Gray duck, I think you'd get both Blue and Black Bibbed offspring - but I'm not sure on that one.

    I dunno about the too big duck though. I'd say that you probably shouldn't breed her, but I don't breed Call ducks. Hopefully someone else will chime in! [​IMG]
     
  3. goosedragon

    goosedragon Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:You won't know what happens with the Bibbed Drake to the White duck until you try it - White is a "masking" color that blocks all other pigment. She could be virtually ANY color "underneath" the white. I have three Call ducklings that came from a Butterscotch x White mating, and they hatched out Blue Pied - they all got a dose of the blue dilution from the Butterscotch Drake, but the White duck must have been carrying both Extended Black and the Pied (sometimes called the "Runner Pattern", because it's the pattern you see on a Fawn & White Runner) gene.

    With the Bibbed drake to the Gray duck, I think you'd get both Blue and Black Bibbed offspring - but I'm not sure on that one.

    I dunno about the too big duck though. I'd say that you probably shouldn't breed her, but I don't breed Call ducks. Hopefully someone else will chime in! [​IMG]

    Larger than show size ducks are often used to produce a generation because the show size is just too darn small to reproduce properly. This mating is likely to produce a range of sizes between the size of the two parents. Sorry don't know about color genetics..... Good Luck!
     
  4. Sweetfolly

    Sweetfolly Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Ah - that makes sense! [​IMG]
     
  5. josh44

    josh44 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Oh I just thought you bred the smallest with the smallest.

    Forgot to mention the ehtie hen has cream/tan on her head. Is This is due to the masking color
     
  6. OmaBird

    OmaBird Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Nope, I just read that too this morning. Even you tiny show birds are sometimes feed to reduce size. These do not make the best breeders.
     
  7. Sweetfolly

    Sweetfolly Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Hmmm...that sounds interesting. A true "White" shouldn't have any colored feathers. Any chance you could get a picture up? Pretty please? [​IMG]
     
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  8. Chris09

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  9. Sweetfolly

    Sweetfolly Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:That link didn't work for me - here's the one I use, but it's NOT very accurate unless your ducks are all "pure" colors and aren't carrying any recessive genes: http://kippenjungle.nl/kruisingEend.html
     
  10. Henk69

    Henk69 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    It is accurate, but the calculator can't smell what genes your ducks are carrying... [​IMG]
    You can set these in the advanced version (hyperlink to the right).

    Someone told me that the Extended black and dominant bib genes are closely linked.
    That isn't build in yet.

    Annarie, is that a picture of Jamie Gertz?
     

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