Can chicken mites get on cat/dog house pets???

Discussion in 'Predators and Pests' started by RobinFarmGirl, May 5, 2014.

  1. RobinFarmGirl

    RobinFarmGirl Chirping

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    Hello,

    If I bring in (on me by accident) chicken mites, can they get on my pet cats/dog and infest them??? I'm in the process of getting rid of them in the coop and they get on me sometimes and I find them crawling on me while I'm in the house (Y-U-C-K!!!!!!).

    Thank you!!!
     
  2. ChickensAreSweet

    ChickensAreSweet Heavenly Grains for Hens

    Ok I have been through that so let me tell you how to get rid of them:

    To get rid of the infestation:
    Buy poultry dust from the feed store (permethrin). Dust each chicken under wings, vent area, and everywhere but the face with dust in a tied off sock. Toss all bedding and nest box material (VERY important). Repeat dusting in 7 days and again in 14 if they are still not gone or if you are also dealing with lice, not just mites.

    Dust coop as well (or spray coop with liquid permethrin). You can also spray your chickens with the liquid diluted permethrin if you don't want to deal with dust.

    When you are dealing with an infestation, take precautions such as these:
    Take off clothes and put them in a plastic bag, which you keep in the garage. Vaccuum house and change sheets - wash all laundry at least every 4 days, as that is the minimum life cycle I have read about for the Northern Fowl Mite, which I am assuming you are dealing with.

    They don't breed on human blood but can live for 3 weeks with no poultry blood meal. In the meantime they do bite and annoy humans and pets. They will not "infest" your animals but will bite them while they are trying to find chickens. The red mite lives for 9 months with no poultry meal and comes out at night and lives in the cracks of the coop. The Northern Fowl Mite is active during the day and runs VERY fast. It will run up your arms as you collect eggs.

    Sevin dust is effective but is no longer approved for poultry. It is sold at garden centers and lost its approval in 2009 so is banned for poultry. Some mites are resistant to permethrin.

    There are websites on internet that claim that mites can breed on human blood but I read a university entomologist's report that stated that this has never once been proven. The people who get a bird's nest near their home and the mites come in through the air conditioner in the window...they get thousands of bugs in their home and end up calling an exterminator- those people state they are being infested but remember those bugs can live for 9 months with no bird blood meal so it may appear to them that they are breeding off human blood.

    I have been in tears, sleeping in a cot in the living room with mites crawling all over me, taking showers and baths three times in one night because of mites.

    If you take a shower they CAN escape the shower and only a tub bath will make them float up dead. So if you are bothered by them this is what you do:

    Vaccuum home
    Change sheets/blankets
    Take tub bath/submerge your head
    Repeat as needed

    If you collect them in your home they are just awful. So what I do in times of infestation is to leave my clothes in the garage and just run for the shower. I always keep my chicken keeping clothes in the garage in a bag now just out of habit, having dealt with mites on and off for years now.

    If you don't change the nest box material and all the shavings in the coop with each treatment then they will be back. I now use sand in the coop and mix dust in there so I don't have to throw out bedding all the time.

    Wild birds bring in mites. If I am having a lot of trouble with mites it really helps to dust every 4 months or so, just to keep them away. If you give them a woodstove ashes/DE/sand bath that will help as a preventative but I have had DE all over my coops and still had mites everywhere running up my arms. So I recommend chemicals to treat an infestation.

    Keeping chickens requires mite treatments if they have mites, as mites can kill chickens, as can lice. It is such a joy to keep chickens bug free. Rest assured that if you are vigilant and just keep at it they will go away. As soon as you notice that you are itchy when you go in the coops it is time to do another round of treatment, as it is very difficult to see these bugs. I cannot find them on me at all until I take a bath and they float up dead, or find them in my socks, dead with blood stains.

    They are very fast and nasty little creatures. They fall dead instantly with the insecticides. Please do follow the approved insecticide plan though, as these things are highly regulated. I hope this helps and I hope you are back to the joy of chicken keeping soon!
     
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  3. RobinFarmGirl

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    Thank you so much for your quick response and wonderful information. I can feel safe then that my cats & dog will not become infested. I don't have a problem with them in my home (thank goodness) but do get them on me. I would be so upset if they got on my house animals due to me!!!

    I have been told (on BYC forum) about the Seven dust and Permethrin. We have been using DE for some time now and it doesn't seem to be working. We use hay and will have to stop that now. Only we can't find anywhere nearby that sells "construction sand". I don't want the kind of sand that one would use in a kid's play area. I've read that "construction sand" is better....

    Our chickens do dust baths in the DE and dirt in the yard but the coop is the culprit; every morning I find the mites in cracks and remove what I can since the DE isn't working.

    I haven't had a problem with them on me while in the house because I get them before I come in. Like you said, I usually find them crawling on my hands & arms. But today I had them on my shirt and didn't realize it until I kept feeling them on me even after I had washed my arms/hands. I had leaned into the coop and my shirt rubbed against the opening so they got on me. They are little terrors.....

    Thanks again, great info!!
    Robin
     
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  4. ChickensAreSweet

    ChickensAreSweet Heavenly Grains for Hens

    You are welcome!

    Hay has its own mites (straw mites):
    http://www.idph.state.il.us/envhealth/pcmites.htm
    see itch mites

    I cannot buy alfalfa hay anymore as I get way too itchy.

    Places that sell gravel should also sell construction sand. I buy mine from a local nursery by the truckload and put a tarp down under it and over it. You should try to get the "washed" construction sand. Also- always wear a mask when sifting sand. It is very bad to get in the lungs. I wear an N95 mask to go in my coops.

    There is a "Got sand you should" thread that is great! Also the "poop board convert thread" is awesome.
     
  5. RobinFarmGirl

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    Can I find Permethian spray at Tractor Supply??

    P.S. - Seven dust on chickens & permethian spray on coop, correct? Does Permethian come in dust form? I'd prefer dusting to spraying the chickens.

    Thanks again!!!
     
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  6. Folly's place

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    Good information here! I use shavings in the coop, and put pyrethrin dust in the coop with every litter change. I understand that Sevin degrades quickly in moisture, so I don't use it in the bedding. Ivermectin is also effective for the birds; I give it orally, as it also kills most internal parasites. Only pyrethrin dust and piprazine are approved for chickens, so off label is sometimes the only effective way to manage infestations. Mary
     
  7. ChickensAreSweet

    ChickensAreSweet Heavenly Grains for Hens

    Yes the feed stores carry Poultry Dust - Prozap I think is one brand. It is permethrin dust.

    Also Permethrin liquid- dilution is on label- fold label out and it is underneath it.
     
  8. RobinFarmGirl

    RobinFarmGirl Chirping

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    Do you mean PERMETHRIN dust?

    Great info you passed along.... Thanks!
    Robin
     
  9. Folly's place

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    You are so right, it's permethrin dust. They are in the same family, got confused. Mary
     
  10. RobinFarmGirl

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    My local Tractor Supply didn't have Permethrin (didn't seem familiar with it when I called to ask if they had it). So I went to a local hardware store that carries animal necessities and they had "PYRETHRIN" (like you wrote) concentrate. So I got it. It will still work, correct? Small container.... HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU MEASURE IT..... Bottle says 1 PART to 4 PARTS water. What is the measurement? Very confusing!

    Thanks!
     
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