Can you tell if a cochin is a bantam or standard at 8 weeks? - pics

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by ArizonaDesertChicks, Nov 22, 2009.

  1. ArizonaDesertChicks

    ArizonaDesertChicks Eggstactic for Pretty Eggs

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    This is my first and only cochin and I know nothing about this breed. I posted a question about this little roo a week ago in a different section, but the answers were inconclusive - I think it was 4 votes for standard & 4 for bantam. This cute frizzle started crowing at only 7 weeks and I need to rehome him (no roosters allowed where I live). I can't wait till he grows up to find out the answer - he was crowing quite a lot this morning and needs to go soon. I'd like to be able to let perspective new owners know whether he is a banty or a standard (it may affect their decision as to whether or he'd be a good fit for their flock).

    He seems to be about the same body size as my EEs but shorter. He is larger than the buff orp, but so are the EEs. I'm leaning towards thinking he is a standard, but just not sure as to how large a standard cochin chick would be at this age - if anyone else has pictures of their cochins with other chicks at around 2 months old - I'd love to see the pics.

    These first 4 photos were taken a week ago at 7 weeks of age - the last 2 were taken today at 8 weeks old.

    from left to right -- the frizzle, buff orp, easter egger, silkie (my size 9 foot for reference)
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    next to a standard size easter egger & a silkie
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    with 2 more easter eggers

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    on my knee with EE & LB

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    8 weeks of age - same silkie (she's stretching and is not really that tall), buff orp, & more EEs
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  2. Mahonri

    Mahonri Urban Desert Chicken Enthusiast Premium Member

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    I'm sayin' bantam.
     
  3. Chris09

    Chris09 Circle (M) Ranch

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    Bantam..

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  4. Goose and Fig

    Goose and Fig Grateful Geese

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    I'd say bantam too. LF develop very slowly. I have some roos that are 6 months old and they aren't crowing yet. My banty cochin roos seem to start very early.
     
  5. ArizonaDesertChicks

    ArizonaDesertChicks Eggstactic for Pretty Eggs

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    It's interesting that bantams crow so much sooner. HappyMtn, Were your LF cochins larger than the other chicks when they were little?

    I went out this morning and actually weighed 10 chicks with my postal scale (results below). Do the weights of the chicks confirm your bantam answers? The frizzle is much larger than the 3 silkies I have. Are bantam cochins a lot larger than silkies when full grown?

    The three silkies weigh 10 oz, 11 oz, & 12 oz
    The buff orpington weighs 20 oz
    The frizzle weighs 21 ounces
    Four of the easter eggers weigh 24 oz, 24 oz, 26 oz, & 28 ounces (I didn't weigh them all, but picked up the ones closest to me)
    My 1 and only light brahma weighs 32 oz.
     
  6. roostercruiser

    roostercruiser Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I say bantam. Really hard to tell since most of the pictures are so close.
     
  7. chickenbottom

    chickenbottom Chillin' With My Peeps

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    awww i love him hes so cute wish you were closer
     
  8. Crunchie

    Crunchie Brook Valley Farm

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    Where'd you get him? From a hatchery? If so, you might be able to figure it out by process of elimination--e.g., if you got them from x hatchery and x hatchery only sells frizzle cochins in bantam, then you'd know he's a bantam...

    I'm guessing bantam, and that he's bigger than the other chicks because he's a bantam and is more quickly maturing. But that's only a guess. [​IMG] Good luck. He's a cutie.
     
  9. ArizonaDesertChicks

    ArizonaDesertChicks Eggstactic for Pretty Eggs

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    Quote:I just found out that he is indeed a bantam. You're all correct!

    I bought him from our local feedstore - he was the only frizzle in the entire tub of chicks. I thought about calling the feedstore and asking them, but didn't have a lot of faith that they would give me the correct answer (I had previously bought 'gold-lace wyandottes' from them that were actually black sexlinks and they were clueless when I brought it to their attention). But.... you gave me an idea - I just now called Privett's, which is where my feedstore buys their chicks from, and asked them if they even sell LF cochins. They don't. I now have my answer 100% - thanks everyone for helping.

    Edited to add: I am actually surprised that he is a banty - he is twice the weight of my silkies and 1 oz larger than my BO - I'm assuming bantam cochins aren't as small as other bantams?
     
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  10. ArizonaDesertChicks

    ArizonaDesertChicks Eggstactic for Pretty Eggs

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    Quote:I think he's adorable too - I soooo wish I could keep him. I have 3 silkies (hopefully at least one is a girl). If we were allowed to keep him, we might have ended up with sizzle babies.
     

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