can you tell if this is a lavender?? (tryin to do pic)

Discussion in 'Guinea Fowl' started by critters, Jun 10, 2011.

  1. critters

    critters Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Is this a lavender??
     
  2. La Mike

    La Mike (Always Slightly Off)

    Nov 20, 2009
    louisiana
    Doesnt look to be try getting a pic with the light out to show true coloring [​IMG]
     
  3. critters

    critters Chillin' With My Peeps

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    here's a darker shot...
     
  4. robin416

    robin416 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Feb 6, 2007
    It does look lavender. Other than opalines that's the only color I have around here.
     
  5. ColbyNTX

    ColbyNTX Chillin' With My Peeps

    May 2, 2009
    Woods, TX
    He almost looks like a white from the pics. Here is a pic of a few lavenders I have hatched. I was wanting to keep a few this year but I am selling them faster than I can hatch them! I have been hatching 15-40 lavenders a week!

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  6. PeepsCA

    PeepsCA Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Male Buff Dundotte is my guess, looks tan based instead of blue or grey to me, and the feather growth looks off-white or tan-ish to me.

    Lavenders, (and any other colors in the blue gene family) will have grey/blue tinted colored feather shafts developing as the feathers start to grow in. Look under the wings, ( at the wing feathers close to the body, not the flight feathers on the very wingtips) and see what color they are. If they are coming in white, off-white or tan, then it's not in the blue gene color family.


    This is a horribly blurry pic, but it kind of gives you an idea of what I mean by grey/blue tinted colored feather shafts (this is the underside of the wing of a 2 wk old Lite Lavender keet)
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  7. PeepsCA

    PeepsCA Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Robin, did your opalines have the wide solid stripe with narrower stripes outside the wide line, or did they have the thin broken lines on their heads as keets?
     
  8. robin416

    robin416 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Feb 6, 2007
    They were white at hatch, no dark banding of any kind on them. It was only as they began to mature that the spots showed up.
     
  9. critters

    critters Chillin' With My Peeps

    PeepsCA............ what tells you this is a male?

    looking more carefully I see the thick color (center of head) then 2 thin stripes/bands on each side of that on his head with
    the stripping kinda of tanish in color....(sometimes it looks greyish in different lighting but mostly looks tanish)...I see no other color on him.
    In looking at the feather shaft under his wings, it appears to be white/light tanish?...but no other
    coloring that I noted...the top side of his body is white.....

    I have one opaline male...could he and someone have made up a Buff Dundotte?

    Either way, my little keet is very cute and I like his coloring!! [​IMG]
     
  10. PeepsCA

    PeepsCA Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:I agree, it is a very cute keet indeed. I noticed the head stripes immediately, so that's what I was basing my guess on - the stripes and their color. I was also basing it on the color of the new feather growth coming in, but it's hard to tell from the pics if they are pure white or off-white, but I could definitely tell they were not blue, grey or silver tinted. Buff Dundotte males' colors are always lighter than the females', especially at hatch and are one of the few colors that can be fairly accurately sexed at hatch, or at least at a young age before the females start buck-wheating (that pretty much pertains to all the birds in the tan family - Buff, Blonde, Chocolate, Brown, Cinnamon etc, and even the Porcelains and Opaline females have a tendency to be slightly darker at hatch - because they carry both the tan and the blue genes).

    The Buff Dundotte males feather out with really light colored feathers at first (almost white, like your keet), then they molt to darker spotted feathers with noticeable barring on the flights and primaries, (not being quite fully pearled yet), then they'll molt again into their adult fully pearled plumage at around 3-4 months (depending on if they are getting the proper amount of protein in their diet). As I stated in my previous post this keet looks tan-ish to me in the pics (especially the wide stripe on the head), not blue, grey or silver tinted like my the Lavenders and Lite Lavenders always do (I've hatched about 75 or so of those this year out of the 424 assorted colored keets I've hatched so far).

    But now since you mentioned having an Opaline male and also that the wide stripe on the keet's head looks grey-ish in certain lighting, it is possible that this keet could be a Porcelain (the wide stripe on it's head indicates it will be a fully pearled bird as an adult, so it will not be an Opaline)....and so I'd guess it as being a Hen in that case, since the head markings are so dark/pronounced, (that is IF it does not mature to be a Buff Dundotte male with noticeably creamy tan feathers, fully pearled).

    ANY combination of your birds that are carrying hidden recessive genes could produce a Buff Dundotte keet for you, or any other colored keet for that matter. (I've gotten Buff Dundotte and Royal Purple keets out of a flock of 7 regular Pearl Greys for years and years). I see you also have a Royal Purple keet in the pics [​IMG]

    Anyway, hope that clarified my Buff Dundotte guess for you. Without seeing the keet in person, (both at hatch and now as it's feathering out).... it's only just a guess. I'm confident enough in my keet identification abilities and experiences to definitely say it is not a Lavender keet looking at the 3 pics you provided tho [​IMG]

    I looked thru all my brooders of different aged keets and I do not have any Buff Dundottes to post pics of, only a few very Pied Buff Dundottes, which aren't really good comparisons to post pics of... [​IMG]
     
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