Cemani farms in Indonesia

Discussion in 'Pictures & Stories of My Chickens' started by Roosterbullet, Feb 24, 2015.

  1. Roosterbullet

    Roosterbullet Just Hatched

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    Just wanted to let all know, I ordered 12 ayam cemani eggs and 12 laughing chicken eggs from cemani farms in Indonesia. I received the eggs as ordered but sad to say that after 12 days in the incubator none of the cemani eggs are fertile and only one of the 12 laughing chicken eggs appears to be dark and living, 6 blew up in the incubator after only 8 days, and the other 5 are not fertile. that was a $620.00 dollar gamble!!! I wouldn't suggest purchasing any from them. There was no feedback on their website about hatch results, just what a nice guy he was and that everyone received their eggs!! If anyone else has ordered from them, please let me know how yours turned out. It was a chance I was willing to take to get pure breed Ayams but a costly one at that!!
     
  2. scratch'n'peck

    scratch'n'peck Overrun With Chickens

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    Sorry to hear about that. Those laughing chickens are so cool. I hope you can find another source for those breeds.
     
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  3. b.hromada

    b.hromada Flock Mistress

    Sorry about not having a good hatch. I have never heard of laughing chickens. Now I must go Google them and see!
     
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  4. BantamFan4Life

    BantamFan4Life LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO. Premium Member

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    I'm sorry to hear that. [​IMG] It's always a disappointment when you're incubating eggs and they don't hatch--especially when you paid a fortune for them!
     
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  5. chick dude

    chick dude New Egg

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    whew ...at least I am not the only dummy who ordered. I to ordered but im got you up by one cuz I ordered 2 dozen .. 12 laughing chicken and 12 cemani ... they were shipped 2 diff days. when cemain arrived 6 were broke and what a mess he did send 6 replacement but just like you ... NO GROWTH ... NO HATCH .... so I will see your 600.00 dollar loss and up it to 1000.00 loss

    24 eggs . a million miles and NOTHING !!!

    I was at least hoping for 1 laughing chicken to hatch... this way me and that chicken could sit around and laugh about how we just wasted a bunch of money
     
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  6. maranfarmer563

    maranfarmer563 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I wanted to order laughing chickens eggs but you need a import permit,how did you get the eggs delivered? I raise cemani and have hatching eggs for 20ea. I cross the three lines together for pure foundation stock,that way in not breeding brother to sister. I get about 30% culls I sell for laying hens
    the cemani layed this winter when it was 20 below O. Seem very hardy herein northern Pennsylvania. I send extra eggs so you can get a good hatch.
     
  7. Phoenix5ire

    Phoenix5ire Out Of The Brooder

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    My experience on shipped Ayam Cemani eggs:

    I've had pretty high success on incubating with my own backyard chicken eggs.., almost 100%. So I was confident enough to buy some Ayam Cemani from Ebay. Long story short, after several hundred $ spent and 21+ days later, I got 20+ rotten eggs and nothing to show for. Nothing hatched. I don't know if the eggs were ship via air or ground as they were from out of state. Anyhow, my personal opinion on eggs ship via air travel (case in point with eggs from Indonesia), the eggs would have gone thru air-travel. I'm not a rocket or yolk scientist but an egg subject thru air-travel would be at high risk for damage due to compression.

    High/low altitude will cause the egg's air-cell to compress and expand, this will have great adverse-affect on something so delicate, throw in the rough handling too and you've got a damage egg. An air trip from Indonesia to the US will likely cause severe damage to the air-cell, nearly eliminating the egg from every developing. Call me a pessimist but those "nice guy" comments on www.cemanifarms.com website don't do squawk on your $500-$1000 investment. Plus, there's not a single feedback on hatch rate. In my opinion, it would be very, very unlikely eggs on commercial flight would ever hatch.

    The other factor is rough handling, if you can't get eggs ship from a state over to hatch because the aircells are so whack, there's no way you will get any from overseas. Shippers toss the packages like any other boxes, they throw them. It's a box.

    I would like to try again if there's any worthy sellers that will work with me but most don't. Fork out the cash, save the headache and buy live chicks imo.

    Conclusion:
    Can't hatch chick from a scrambled egg.

    Happy Hatching!
     
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  8. chick dude

    chick dude New Egg

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    Yes do not order from cemani farms.. they do not hatch and on top of that when fed ex guy got here he had NO IDEA they were eggs. They were NOT MARKED like they show on web site .. as a marter of fact I dont think they are even legal to ship and that would then explain why the packing slip says light bulbs as enclosed item..

    if I would of only known .. and that why I want to let everyone know before they waste their money
     
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  9. BF110845

    BF110845 Out Of The Brooder

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    Darn. I'm dying to have some laughing chickens and was about to go out on a limb and blow my fortune on fertile eggs from Cemani Farm. Glad I decided to research first. Wonder if we'll ever get them in the USA?
     
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  10. fer9us

    fer9us Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Have bought cemani *chicks from several suppliers - with limited success - about one-third reached maturity even though all were delivered healthy via overnight bus from C. Java.
    (PM me for details if yr interested in the the supplier - but it wasn't the cemanifarms.com guy - sorry to say I took one look at his prices and thought he was looking for people overseas with money to blow - even if the website makes it look like a quality product. @laughing chickens from the island of Sulawesi - same deal. Pity it's difficult to ship live, mature animals but would suggest that's a safer bet).
    Cemani as a breed seem very suceptible to crappy genetics - think a lot of breeders don't do much to prevent inbreeding, but are just trying to make money.
    Mature Cemani chickens with black tongues are worth a fair bit so everyone is trying to profit from the Lamborghini of chickens - as a result you get a lot of crappy breeders and crappy stock.
    So proceed with caution!
    Of the chicks I bought 6-8 months ago, one has started laying, which is good news - hoping she'll cross with some of my healthier stock I have.
    Generally though the Cemanis are the skinniest and ropiest-looking birds in my flock.
    Adios!
     

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