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Chick mortality rates - what do I do?

Discussion in 'Raising Baby Chicks' started by jmartin0411, May 13, 2016.

  1. EggSighted4Life

    EggSighted4Life Chillin' With My Peeps

    Wooh, I am glad to here that fur baby will be going with family. It is really difficult to deal with some animal behaviors. And it sounds like you are blessed with a good family and them with you! Thank you for not responding in an ugly manor. I certainly understand having priorities and more stuff to do than 3 of me could accomplish in my whole life time.
    I did also consider that a possibility. When I first got my 250w bulb and put it in the box and closed the lid a little (I was newer back then), I checked 10 minutes later and the chicks were freaked because it was 120 degrees in there! Then I realized that was as high as the thermometer went. I got luck that time. But you would probably notice them holding their wings out and panting. My first brooder didn't have enough space for a cool area and didn't realize I needed it. I think it hindered their feathering speed a little. I did end up going to 150w red bulb and then 100w regular as I was weaning them off heat.

    Sounds like you have the best interest not only for the dog, but your whole family. That is not heartless or cold, that is Love!

    Have a great day, and good luck to your family!
     
  2. AllynTal

    AllynTal Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I agree. I don't know if that is the cause for the high death rate, but I believe more chicks are killed by well-intentioned people using the ****** brooder lamp than any other cause. I brooder mine outside with the heating pad. They're less stressed and can regulate their warmth needs.
     
  3. EggSighted4Life

    EggSighted4Life Chillin' With My Peeps

    I am doing the mamma heating pad method with my next brood. It just makes so much sense. And if you read my post, you know I had a close call, isn't chicken considered done at 165 degrees?
     
  4. AllynTal

    AllynTal Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Do it. That's what I did with my last brood and I am never going back. I am never brooding chicks in the house ever again. I see now that brooding in the house with that god-awful lamp (or even outside with that god-awful lamp) is the most ridiculous way to brood chicks. I think that people do it because it's what the big poultry farms do and if the big farms do it, it must be the way to do it, yeah? So the accepted way to do it for the backyard chicken owner must be a scaled down version of what the big farms do. Forget that on our scale, it doesn't make sense and we can't create the kind of controlled environment for them in such a small space. For the small-flock owner, creating an environment more like the natural brooding experience a chick has with a mother hen makes more sense. The chicks have less stress because they can act like chickens and they have a natural day/night cycle. Because they're not under constant light 24/7, they don't overeat which means they don't have the health problems that chicks can have under brooder lamps. I could go on and on. Mamma Heating Pad for the win.
     
  5. junebuggena

    junebuggena Overrun With Chickens

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    So basically, your brooder is an oven for chicks. Too small, and no way for them to get away from the heat and adequately cool themselves. Heat will kill them much easier than a slight chill will. If they are a bit too cool, they can always huddle together. But keep them in a brooder that is entirely heated, and they just can't cool down and self regulate. Small brooders and heat lamps are not a good combo. The brooder (regardless of the number of chicks you're raising) needs to have enough room for only one small warm zone, directly under the heat lamp. The rest of the brooder needs to be much cooler, at least 20 degrees cooler.
    Also, they still need heat until they are mostly feathered. 2 week old chicks can fly up 3 feet, but they still aren't ready for outdoors yet.
     
  6. EggSighted4Life

    EggSighted4Life Chillin' With My Peeps

    It's also because that's what they tell us at the feed store without asking any question about your set up.
     
  7. AllynTal

    AllynTal Chillin' With My Peeps

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    That's what I mean; it's the accepted way to brood chick even though there is a better way. It's the 21st century. People need to rethink.
     
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  8. jmartin0411

    jmartin0411 Out Of The Brooder

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    I completely understand the concern. Two of our dogs we have now are rescues and we have another at my grandmother's who was as well. They don't leave the family once they come home, but we try to put everyone's best interests into consideration. My son runs me all over the place and we have the chickens, a duck, a garden and a pig to boot. I wish he would get along with our inside dogs (which I'm trying again now since I'm working from home today).

    I have only noticed panting once or twice and turned the lamp off when I did. I also try to move the brooder outside in the daytime if I'm here or someone is at the house so they can get fresh air and sunshine. We keep wire over the top so nothing can get to them and put them on our balcony when we do that, no dogs and generally no predatory birds (though at night the owls like to watch them through our windows at night). But heat could certainly be an issue and I had read about vitamin e deficiency causing the same symptoms as well.
     
  9. jmartin0411

    jmartin0411 Out Of The Brooder

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    See, our feed store feeds the idea that they need full time heat lamp and not a lot of room.
     
  10. junebuggena

    junebuggena Overrun With Chickens

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    Don't believe everything feed store employees tell you. They don't always know what they are talking about.
     

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