chickens in the compost pile

Discussion in 'Managing Your Flock' started by operator16, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. operator16

    operator16 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Would there be any reason to keep my compost pile seperated from the chickens? Would there be any hazards in there for them? I think they'd love to have access to it, I just don't know if it's ok for them. Please let me know thoughts on this.

    Thanks!!!!
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  2. gryeyes

    gryeyes Covered in Pet Hair & Feathers

    Nah. Not unless you're throwing something you shouldn't into the compost pile.

    They'll love it! They'll scratch around in it, find worms and bugs and seeds and goodies. And their scratching will help mix / turn it for you.
     
  3. PhilErvin

    PhilErvin Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I'd love to have my girls scratch around in my compost bens but they don't seem to be interested. When I turn it and see all the big fat worms I am temped to pull them out and give them to my girls but figure thay are doing more good in the compost.
     
  4. ranchhand

    ranchhand Rest in Peace 1956-2011

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    Hi, the only concern I would have is anything with any mold on it. Mold and chickens don't get along very well, I learned the hard way.
     
  5. NeeleysAVLChicks

    NeeleysAVLChicks Chillin' With My Peeps

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    You know, I opened up my compost pile to the girls several months ago, thinking that they would be thrilled! I lured them all in there with treats as an introduction and I was shocked when they turned up their beaks at all those bugs, lawn clippings and veggie scraps. Its well within their roaming range and they still steer clear. Just when you think you've got them allllll figured out... [​IMG]
     
  6. cobrien

    cobrien Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I used to let mine in the compost pile, they loved it. But I am greedy and want all the worms in it for myself (actually, for my garden). They are so fast at devouring the worms, so I don't let them in it any more but I do throw them an occasional handful of worms as treats. Other than that I think it's fine, but apparently not all chickens love compost piles like mine do.
     
  7. blueid10

    blueid10 Out Of The Brooder

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    Hi,
    For those who have an incubated hatch and are wondering when and how to help your chicks that are not making progress, you may be able to use this info.

    Do NOT be afraid to help the chick out! If you don't hear as much peeping, or see as much beak movement and it has been hours-it's probably time to help. More than likely it has nothing to do with a "weak" chick, but has everything to do with a chick whose membrane has dried out, or is too large for its shell but otherwise perfectly healthy and normal.

    A good indicator of when to help (besides the peeping and moving lessening) is if you see that the pipped area has a very very white membrane showing through at the edges. Most intervention is required because of humidity issues.

    When the chick pips its beak externally the drying process of the membrane really kicks in. And drying makes it nearly impossible for the chick to move around to "zip" the rest of the shell.

    Here's what you need:

    Have WARM water handy
    Really Really WET WARM washcloth
    DULL tweezers-not sharp and pointy
    An eyedropper, or q-tips, or medicine dropper
    Clean hands
    Good lighting

    Here's what you do:

    Remove your egg from bator keeping in mind to turn off any air cconditioning and fans. You want your room as warm as you can stand. (Do not worry about the chick cooling off too much if the room is fairly warm. I have had mine out of the bator for up to 1/2 hour working on the shell and membrane-and the chicks are alive and healthy today). And do NOT be afraid to open and close the incubator-just keep adding wet cloths to the bator to keep humidity up.

    Using your dull tipped tweezers, carefully start at the pip already created and lift ONLY the shell (like a boiled egg-but try hard to NOT include any membrane in your peeling of the shell) and to work around the shell. The best process is to take a bit in the tweezers and PINCH the shell and it will break in very small pieces gradually creating a neat little "zip". The key is to pinch small areas at a time and not remove huge sections. Your goal is to imitate what the chick would do under normal circumstances.

    Zip the shell around the end where the chick started pipping-it should be at the large end of the egg, but sometimes they will pip at the small pointy end or even in the middle.

    As you help zip the shell carefully take your warm water dropper etc. and "bathe" the membrane occassionally to start softening it up. Be very very carefull not to drop water or soak the area of the beak. You do not want to drop water in the nostrils and drown the chick.

    If for any reason you see blood from the membrane-STOP. Put the egg back in the bator, and wrap the very wet, warm washcloth around the exposed zip you have created. Be careful to not completely cover the beak, but cover as much of the exposed membrane as you can to soften it up. Lay the pipped BEAK area on its side or facing up-not facing down-keep in mind the chick is breathing AIR at this point and will need to have an open uncovered access to breathe.

    Leave the baby in the bator for an hour or two longer. Then try repeating the process untill you have zipped entirely around the egg. The MOST important object is to get the membrane very soft like it should have been for the chick to make its way out by softening it in the warm washcloth.

    In VERY difficult cases, over a period of hours, you can, in steps, do this process and remove almost ALL of the shell and soak the membrane in the wet washcloth in the incubator. You also can (using your judgement) decide to help remove the membrane itself, but do not do that too early in the shell removing process (you can email me for more directions on the membrane).

    All in all, you need to be very confident to intervene like this. If you are too scared or iffy about it, you may want to just wait it out. But honestly, if you wait and the chick gets quieter and stiller, chances are you will loose it without doing some intervention.

    So you know it really does work, I have hatched out MANY like this myself. Once they make the pip and can't zip, the membrane rapidly dehydrates. Also, some chicks are just WAY to big for their shells and cannot physically move around to do the zipping and then they die in one spot having been unable to rotate. I found that several difficult chciks are actually the largest ones-the smaller "runt" chicks have literally kicked their way out like they were kickboxing.

    I "gave birth" to, or hatched 2 chicks out COMPLETELY in my hand by using this method above AND removing the membrane (email or ask for those membrane directions). And I have also helped way more zip using the above method. They are alive and thriving as I speak-so it can be done! I am not a person who is willing to sit and listen to my bator get quieter and quieter as the chicks die in their shells. But, as I stated, you must choose what you feel is best for your situation, and be sure and ask if you are not sure when to intervene-there are many here on the BYC that have a wealth of info.
     
  8. blueid10

    blueid10 Out Of The Brooder

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    got that from somewhere thought it might come in handy to post:duc
     
  9. gryeyes

    gryeyes Covered in Pet Hair & Feathers

    Quote:Thanks!

    Probably better suited to the Incubating/Hatching Eggs forum, though.
     
  10. Mrs. K

    Mrs. K Overrun With Chickens

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    Mine do not have a lot of interest in the compost, i too spilled it, and they scratched abit and went on.

    One the main parts of my compost is hay which can have so many weed seeds. So what I do do, is that all winter, I have a large pile of hay in the run. As it snows I pull that hay over the top of the snow cause my spoiled girls do not like to walk in snow. They come out and scratch around in it, here the snow comes and goes, so when it is melted, I pile it back up in the corner, spread it out when it snows. Sometimes the girls will spread it out for me too, but by repeatedly spread and piling in the run, adding the gifts the girls do, absorbing the moisture, really helps break it down, when I sweep it up and put it in the compost.

    Mrs.K
     

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