chocolate & black Muscovies?

Discussion in 'Ducks' started by farmdude, Nov 20, 2011.

  1. farmdude

    farmdude Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I bought 6 "chocolate pied" muscovy ducklings off craig's list. Both parents are chocolate pied, but all the ducklings are black & black bibed. I bought another pair 1 blue bibed male and 1 chocolate bibed female, from another source. To avoid inbreeding I plan to breed the blue male to the black females and a black male to the chocolate female. My question is; Is black dominate? Will I get all black babies from these pairings? Or will I get a variety of colors? I'm new to muscovies and know nothing of their color genetics. Also can I get any pieds from these?
     
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  2. iajewel

    iajewel Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I don't see how you have all black out of 2 chocolate parents since Chocolate is dominate. If you have one chocolate parent, then any chocolate off spring will be male, its sex linked, however when both parents are chocolate, Im willing to bet they finish molting out chocolate.
     
  3. farmdude

    farmdude Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:When I bought the ducklings, the owner insisted they were chocolate pied. Since she only had 2 muscovies a pied chocolate drake and a pied chocolate hen. The ducklings looked black to me but I bought them anyway as they were a great deal and color didn't really matter at the time.They are 4 months old now and are black. are you telling me they could change color in time and turn chocolate? I'm confused [​IMG]
     
  4. farmdude

    farmdude Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Wow [​IMG] Thanks!! I'm assuming I'll get 50/50 with the black & chocolate cross then too??
     
  5. dianaross77

    dianaross77 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Oct 10, 2010
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    iajewel is right. If both parents were chocolate, the offspring would be chocolate.

    Black drake to chocolate duck:
    100% black [​IMG]

    Chocolate drake to black duck:
    chocolate ducks
    black drakes

    I have a chocolate drake and should be lucky enough to come up with a few clutches of sex-linked ducklings! [​IMG]
     
  6. farmdude

    farmdude Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Weird. The lady either lied to me or i don't know what [​IMG]
     
  7. farmdude

    farmdude Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Weird. The lady either lied to me or i don't know what [​IMG]

    I'm really disapointed. But I still like the ducks.
     
  8. learycow

    learycow Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Ive found that the best way to figure these things out is to breed them an see what you get [​IMG]
    I think the Muscovys carry many different genes, and that the normal genetic rules don't always apply to them. I admit, I know very little about their genetics and how they work, but by breeding my own I have come up with colors people are saying I wouldn't get!

    I have 3 that I use for breeding. They are all black and white pied, and one hen is barred. I ended up with chocolates (all were females), lavenders, whites, silvers, and black. Most were pied, and the few solid ones all molted out to have white heads.

    The ducklings that ended up black I thought would be chocolate. As ducklings, they do look brownish. So maybe that's why the woman who sold them to you said they were all chocolate. They do look like a chocolate duck, but feather out black [​IMG].

    So even though both parents of the ducklings you bought were chocolate, I think the Muscovys have many recessive genes that can pop out in their offspring. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong! But like I said, from my experiences, the best way to find out what you can get by breeding your colors, is to breed them and hatch ducklings for a few clutches and see what you get. It is not always predictable!
     
  9. farmdude

    farmdude Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thank you Learycow for your encouraging words. I'm not sure if I'll breed them this spring or not. I am very curious as to what genes are lurking in them. I'll just have to wait and see! [​IMG]
     

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