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Clear Faverolles vs German (Dark) Faverolles?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Chickndaddy, Oct 24, 2008.

  1. Chickndaddy

    Chickndaddy Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 26, 2007
    East Texas
    I remember stumbling across this website several years ago and seeing something about Clear Faverolles.

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    (Clear) Faverolles : salmon, cuckoo.
    It comes from the village of Faverolles (Eure-et-Loir). The product of crossbreeding of farm hens with Brahma, Houdan, Dorking, Cochin and Langshan. At the beginning of the 20th century, it had no standard. The breeders' main concern was to produce a first class table fowl for the markets of the nearby capital.
    Cock : 3.5 to 4 kg ; hen : 2.8 to 3.5 kg. Powerful body, wide, deep, not too long ; owlish head, well-developed beard lightly feathered tarsi, five toes ; the whole gives an impression of stately power, with no trace of heaviness. It is red and selected for its fine meat, early laying, as well as for the beauty of its distinctive plumage.

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    German Faverolles (Dark Faverolles) : dark salmon, white, black, ermine.
    With its origins in Faverolles (Eure-et-Loir, France), the Dark Faverolles is a product of selection in Germany for darker colour as well as for a more oblong body. A voluminous bird with a wide and deep body, owlish head. It has a well- developed beard, lightly feathered feet, five well-separated toes, very familiar in character.
    It also exist in bantam
    Cock : 3.5 to 4 kg ; hen : 2.8 to 3.5 kg.

    Perhaps that explains the off-type birds we see in the US? The "clear" roosters look like a basic Silver Duckwing pattern. You can see the original website here:

    http://www.chez.com/volaillepoultry/franc2.html
     
  2. Chickndaddy

    Chickndaddy Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 26, 2007
    East Texas
    Has anyone ever really seen a "Clear" Faverolle in the US? I think they are very pretty. And my earlier comment about off-type birds wasn't really very clear. I was thinking maybe when the birds came over we mixed the colors up and that explains the really light females and the off-colored males that crop up occasionally.
     
  3. Doug the Chicken Man

    Doug the Chicken Man Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Here are pictures of the Faverolles that we got from Performance Poultry in Ontario this spring. They are more like the German breed than the French. In the drawing of the German female I notice what appears to be black in the beard like I have in mine.
    Does the standard take into account the two different versions of Faverolles?

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    Rose the Pullet.

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    Two out of three of our pullets.

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  4. Doug the Chicken Man

    Doug the Chicken Man Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Does anyone else have any that are from the German Dark Line?
     
  5. brownysfp

    brownysfp Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I know this is an ancient post but I've six Dark Faverolles on order, arriving mid-May. They're coming from the neighbouring Creuse department. When they've arrived I'll post some pix.
     
  6. Chickndaddy

    Chickndaddy Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 26, 2007
    East Texas
    I must say I was shocked when I saw this post...lol [​IMG] Please keep us updated on your new arrivals.
     
  7. KalyAn

    KalyAn Out Of The Brooder

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    Have many more of the darker coloration showed up? Is the body style of the darker colored ones favor the German line?

    Pictures from France? The peeps would be almost a year old now.
     
  8. brownysfp

    brownysfp Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hi
    Only five arrived in the end: of those, a clear hen died of causes unknown. The dark roo (typical, it had to be him) was killed in a predator attack. I've a clear roo and hen and a dark hen. There's been one fertile egg so far - and that chick died in February's big freeze. Not a success all in all. I'm going to wait until after we've moved before trying with fresh stock.
     
  9. n8ivetxn

    n8ivetxn Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have a 10 month old pullet, she's supposed to be a Salmon - but her color pattern is really unusual. I can't find anything like it. Actually, I'm beginning to wonder about her breeding - she's beautiful, but like I said, I can't find anything like her..... She is a slightly darker Salmon with darker spots all over! She's the sweetest thing [​IMG]

    I'll try to get some pics posted, but I think there is a policy about new BYCers not being able to post photos.... I really want ya'll to see her, maybe someone could tell me something about her.
     
  10. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

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    they are wheaten based on a silver wildtype background, meaning the only mutation in their color bacground are silver and wheaten, the rest of the genes are wildtype, the dark colored ones have mahogany and/or autosomal red enhancing pheomelanin expression
     

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