Cloaca plugged - pictures in post

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by as110, Sep 8, 2019.

  1. as110

    as110 Songster

    250
    231
    126
    Feb 16, 2017
    Falkland BC
    I have been watching this hen for a few weeks now, she has never let me catch her.
    She has been excreting water, the sound it makes is 3B87362D-9361-44BB-9F3C-CAF85DAA8CF4.jpeg hissing, like she is straining to push out. Her back side was dirty but I could never see the extent of the problem. Until this evening. I managed to grab her in the coop where she sat and She was easily accessible.
    Her cloaca is completely blocked with dry poop, and enlarged to the size of an egg.

    She is soaking in warm water now so I could loosen whatever I am seeing; I don’t want to grab and yank anything out and injure her.

    Here is the picture attached. Has anyone seen something like this and what can I do next?
     
  2. as110

    as110 Songster

    250
    231
    126
    Feb 16, 2017
    Falkland BC

    The stuff inside is yellow and feels like a lash egg, rubbery, it crumbles. I can’t pull it out. When it crumbles, it starts to bleed. I know lash eggs don’t bleed.
    So it might not be lash egg after all.

    So the question is still the same: what is it? Can I save this hen? She is still running around, eating drinking and doing chicken things, flies up to a high perch to sleep. But she is skinny.

    If this can’t be fixed, she will need to be put down. I don’t think I want her to suffer. F2FFCD38-D413-4973-825E-B0CCDB7F375D.jpeg
     
  3. as110

    as110 Songster

    250
    231
    126
    Feb 16, 2017
    Falkland BC
    Is this vent gleet?

    And this is her poop. Lots of gunk soaked off so she could poop normally. View attachment 1903182
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2019
    slordaz and SurferchickinSB like this.
  4. SurferchickinSB

    SurferchickinSB Crowing

    1,903
    2,883
    342
    Feb 23, 2018
    California
    Wow, I have no idea what that is! I hope somebody on this site will help you out, it looks terrible!
     
    slordaz likes this.
  5. micstrachan

    micstrachan Free Ranging

    Gosh, I have no idea with the inside of the plug bleeding like that. I would keep soaking and maybe apply something to soften the gunk when she isn’t soaking, like ointment or honey? Does all of it bleed?
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2019
  6. BarredRockMom

    BarredRockMom Songster

    398
    788
    217
    Jun 9, 2013
    Pennsylvania
    Hi, first off, I'm sorry to see that your girl is having an issue.

    So looking at the pic & it almost looks as if there's been (possibly) a fly strike & it's eaten thru the skin into the cavity? Is that what you think you're seeing? Or does it look like a prolapsed uterus that's happening there? You're correct that just a simple poopy bum isn't going bleed.

    If I were looking at that, I would be thinking about a trip to a vet to see if they could do something. If that's not a viable option, based on what you said & what I think I see, I am afraid that I think you are right to think about putting her down.

    That just breaks my heart to say. That hissing that she makes as she's excreting water is what's making me think prolapse. And the straining, too...

    You certainly can try soaking her daily, working with her, starting antibiotics, giving fluids & food in an indoor, confined environment & see how it goes. I just really want to be wrong.
     
  7. micstrachan

    micstrachan Free Ranging

    I’m starting to think it’s a prolapse with necrotic tissue. If that is the case, you would need to debride the necrotic tissue. Can you also lubricate it with coconut oil or something?
     
  8. casportpony

    casportpony Enlightened

    84,093
    134,005
    1,912
    Jun 24, 2012
    I have seen something like that a couple of times. Never figured out what it was though. If you can't get her to a vet I think you need to remove all poop, crud, and that yellow stuff (pus/infection).
     
  9. EggWalrus

    EggWalrus Crowing

    1,600
    3,695
    487
    Aug 14, 2017
    Southeast Alabama
  10. as110

    as110 Songster

    250
    231
    126
    Feb 16, 2017
    Falkland BC
    It stopped bleeding after the second soak. I soaked her twice. Lots of poop came off. I put preparation h around that circle, polysporin on the bleeding part in the middle and antifungal ointment everywhere else. I cut the feathers too. I forgot to take more pictures. She is sleeping in the kitchen so she can dry completely and I will take another picture in the morning before she goes outside. She was preening while I dried her, she was’t freaking out. She is a friendly hen.

    I didn’t feel swelling in the abdomen. I don’t think she lays eggs anymore but she used to lay nice big eggs. There is some redness on the skin, I think that’s from the gunk that was stuck to the feathers.
     

BackYard Chickens is proudly sponsored by: