Coccidiosis poop?? *Not for the squeamish*

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Tasha71, Jan 29, 2016.

  1. Tasha71

    Tasha71 Out Of The Brooder

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    Hi,

    This is the first time I have ever come across a poop like this, and I believe it is from my 20wk Legbar who has been off lately, but getting better daily.

    The poop chart cocci pic was blurred so I couldn't see if it was just a blood puddle or more solid items. Can anyone help me on this?? :( :(

    Many thanks!

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  2. snowflake

    snowflake Chillin' With My Peeps

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    might repost this and get it back up to the top, wish more knowledgeable folks would comment. I haven't a clue but the pic is good and should help,
     
  3. Lady of McCamley

    Lady of McCamley Overrun With Chickens

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    Coccidiosis poo is red blood mixed in with mucous. It will look like blood. Essentially it is chicken dysentery.

    Your photo looks like it might be coloring from seeds or berries????

    If you still have a sample, I would "tease" the solid portions that look red to see if they are soft like blood clots or hard like a seed.

    She may have gotten into some seeds that are red which will definitely color the poo.

    If the poo does look like it is "bloody," and/or she is standing around puffed and listless, then I would put her immediately on Sulmet or Corid.

    I personally prefer Sulmet as it acts quickly and also targets gram negative bacterial infections, which also can cause some odd looking poo, but many use Corid.

    Good luck with her.

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  4. Tasha71

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    I did tease the red bits apart and it just kind of held together... Not stringy, loose or solid.. Just like glupe. She had some blueberries recently, last week, that is all. I have just been up to lock up and give bed time mash and there are no other poops like it. She is eating as normal and chatting away as I put her food down. I am wondering if she accidentally ate something she shouldn't of and caused a small injury inside.

    I truly am not having much luck with my little chooks at the moment, but all the poops in the coop since I cleaned it earlier all look like they should.

    Thanks very much for your replies and input... I hate seeing my little friends unwell x

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  5. Lady of McCamley

    Lady of McCamley Overrun With Chickens

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    Gut lining will be heavy and stringy, such as you suggested in your analogy, however it is generally pink in color. Heavy red, deep red, clotting, would be more concerning.

    You could put them all on medicated chick feed, which is Amprolium, to head off a bout of Coccidiosis, if everyone seems generally well and there are no other messy poos.

    It won't hurt them, will be a mild treatment, and can prevent a Coccidiosis crisis without having to resort to heavier meds.

    It will not treat a true outbreak, however. For that you will need to give either Sulmet or Corid.

    You can still eat the eggs while they are on the medicated chick feed. The Amprolium level is so low that it does not present in the eggs to any significant level.

    I would leave them on it for several weeks. The Amprolium literally starves the coccidia protozoa by not allowing them to metabolize vitamin B. The level is low so that the bird still builds up an natural immunity to the coccidia, but at levels that are low enough so that it doesn't overwhelm the system.

    Otherwise, just watch and wait. Adding ACV to the water, raw with mother plastic container only, and some probiotics through yogurt or keifer can also go a long way to balance the gut and help prevent any overgrowth.

    LofMc
     
  6. Tasha71

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    Many thanks for the advice. No other poops like it since I posted yesterday. Should I not just go with a cocci treatment in water to be on the safe side? I would rather treat her fast to prevent anything getting worse. She eats well, but hasn't really gained much weight recently, even with protein boosted treats. Thoughts?
     
  7. Lady of McCamley

    Lady of McCamley Overrun With Chickens

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    I would go with a cocci treatment....it won't hurt and it can thwart something lurking.

    My first sign of a cocci problem was slightly listless birds...which I was too busy with a family illness to really pay attention to. I got behind the incident and ended up eventually losing 2 young pullets as it can drag on if it scars their intestines.

    So yeah, I tend to go more aggressive now and treat with meds if I truly suspicion real blood (vs. shed lining).

    LofMc
     
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  8. Tasha71

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    Cocci medication ordered, and hoping for a speedy delivery. Pet stores around here do not cater for chickens regarding products like this. Shall update, and thank you again :)
     
  9. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive Chicken Obsessed Premium Member

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    If you have any feed stores or TSC in your area, most sell Corid, Ampromed, Amprol, which are all the same, in the cattle aisle. Sulmet, Dimethox, or Sulfadimethoxine would be good as well. I would try to get it sooner if possible. Capillary worms can also cause bleeding in droppings. Have younfound more droppings that look like the picture?
     
  10. Tasha71

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    I am in the UK [​IMG] and a beginner of raising chooks, and now learning about all things to do with the young and feathery. ( I have older hens purchased at POL and no issues with them in the last 2 years, apart form the fact that they eat up my garden if they escape.. I love them being naughty [​IMG] ). Unless you are a farmer you have no access to these items :) Sorry, I shall update my profile so you all know where I am from. And no, no more droppings like the one I posted, not from any of my girls.

    Had a worm issue just before December, and all have been treated with flubenvet, 2 courses over the time prescribed, no worms in any poop, no runny, bloody or green poop either, just this one scary deposit [​IMG]
     

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