Columbian silkies?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by rilly10, Nov 1, 2010.

  1. rilly10

    rilly10 Clover Field Farm

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    I was wondering if any one was working on columbian silkies? I am very interested in doing a project pen with them. If you have any I would LOVE to see pics or hear about your project!

    I was thinking of a white silkies paired with columbian cochins?? Does anyone know how the columbian gene works? I can never seen to get the calculator to work!
     
  2. Brody's Broodello

    Brody's Broodello Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Laura,
    You don't need to cross breed to get the color. Easy to get the color already in a purebred. Here is the one I had, Juan.
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  3. Brody's Broodello

    Brody's Broodello Chillin' With My Peeps

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    You take a "bad" buff. Black wing & tail colored on, breed to Lavender. That is how you start.
     
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  4. rilly10

    rilly10 Clover Field Farm

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    Awesome! I have a lav and some buff eggs in lockdown now! If I get a bad one I will keep it! LOL! They are so cool! If you hatch any of those out you don't want let me know!
     
  5. RAREROO

    RAREROO Overrun With Chickens

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    I couldn't find it in the search but if you do some back tracking someone has a thread called "Silkies of a different color" or something like that and it had a pic of a columbian project silkie. Someone said that the columbian genes were incompletely dominant, like the
    Andalusian Blue color gene. But anyway, there are three genes that can color birds white. Recessive White, Dominant White, and Sexlinked Silver. The light Columbian color you are wanting is Sexlinked Silver and White Silkies are Recessive white, which means they are masking another color and there is no way to know what color they are masking, so White Sikies would NOT be a good choice for this project. Use either a Silver Silkie, like Greys, or a gold inverse. Breeding a silver male to gold hens will give hens that are pure for the Silver genes and roos that are split for both silver and gold. I think if I were going to do it I would probably us a Columbian or Silver laced Cochin rooster on Buff Silkie hens. I believe that should give the columbian looking females and the split males. And then work from there. ( just FYI, I bred a BO rooster to a SLW hen and hatched a Buff columbian colored pullet, with light black ticking only in the hackle and tail where it should be for a columbian, so reversing those parent sexes would give Light Columbian in stead of Buff Columbian, thats where I am getting my sugustions from and I'm just assuming it sould work the same in silkies as it would in any other breed, but I dont personally breed Silkies.

    And Partridge or Grey Silkies may work too but I'm not sure what you would get when breeding partridge to columbian so hopefully some of the silkie people can tell you.



    ETA There were't any posts when I started typing this put the pic that Brody's Broodello posted is the one I was talking about.
     
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  6. RAREROO

    RAREROO Overrun With Chickens

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    It looks like I was right about using Buff though, but how do the Lavenders come into play ? The black under the lav would have to be Silver based wouldnt it ? So if the OP happend to end up with gold based Lavs from a different line and breed them to Buffs then it wouldnt work. So wouldnt using Buffs and Greys work then and be a more sure way to know that you have a silver gened bird to use ?
     
  7. rilly10

    rilly10 Clover Field Farm

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    Very intersesting! Thanks so much for the info! Once I (HOPEFULLY [​IMG]) get a few chicks that have silkied feathers and the columbian markings if I bred them together will they breed true? Also, if I understand correctly the chicks that do not show the markings will be carriers or splits? What can I expect them to look like?
     
  8. Illia

    Illia Crazy for Colors

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    Wow, Silkies look really beautiful in Columbian. [​IMG]
     
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  10. Chris09

    Chris09 Circle (M) Ranch

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    Brody's Broodello :

    Quote:Laura,
    You don't need to cross breed to get the color. Easy to get the color already in a purebred. Here is the one I had, Juan.
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/20866_dscn0266.jpg
    April

    Wouldn't your Silkie in the picture be a Black Tailed White since it lacks the Black in the hackles?

    Here is a picture of a Black Tailed White -- (Not My Bird)
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    Here is a Columbian -- (Not My Bird)
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    Columbian (Pattern) feathers -- (from American Standard of Perfection [​IMG] 2001)
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    Chris​
     
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