Well, there ya go. I hate straw. Used it these last few weeks for comparison. Ugh. Back to shavings for my horde except on the nests. Bleagh. It mats. It doesn't dry well. Won't mind a little in there in the deep litter but nope, not a major load of it in there any more. Shavings dry nicely. Wouldn't mind a deep bed of sand under there. Perhaps after spring cleaning. No more straw. I guess I'm still the warped sort that has to try it before I decide yay or nay. Thought someone else might not want to HAVE TO MUCK out a serious load of damp matted poop straw. If it was uber cheap or all I had I'd probably make it work but not when I've got a good alternative. That's cleaner and cheaper.