Cornish X, Caponizing, and feed conversion

Discussion in 'Meat Birds ETC' started by LeghornJosh, Jan 15, 2010.

  1. LeghornJosh

    LeghornJosh Out Of The Brooder

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    I wasn't getting a response on another thread so i started this one.

    1. Do you need to caponize your Cornish X cockerels to get them up to the 8-10lb dressed weight?
    2. Does caponizing change the flavor? If so how?
    3. About how many pounds of feed would it take to get a Cornish X cockerel up to 8-10lbs?
     
  2. bubblebean11

    bubblebean11 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    go to the welphatchery.com and at the bottom of the page click on 2010 catalog and scroll down to meat birds and there is a chart for how much food and the weight of the bird.
     
  3. Buck Creek Chickens

    Buck Creek Chickens Have Incubator, Will Hatch

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    Quote:1. no
    2. only in regular roosters
    3. depends on how you are feeding them, grass-no grass, when you grow them the warmer the temp. the less feed they eat. an 8 to 10 lb'er is about 10-12 weeks old

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    This is with very processed feed, like from fleet farm
     
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  4. LeghornJosh

    LeghornJosh Out Of The Brooder

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    Excelent answers, I plan on ordering these chicks in the next couple of months and i just want to get the facts straight. I would hate to either pay someone to caponize the birds, or have to play "doctor" on them.

    And i have looked at the chart on welps, but they don't show anything past 63 days and a live weight of 10lbs.
     
  5. Buck Creek Chickens

    Buck Creek Chickens Have Incubator, Will Hatch

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    If you live by a WI co-op Sunnyside broilers are great and cheep, if you get stright run they where less then $1 each, I got some for $.80 last year
     
  6. LeghornJosh

    LeghornJosh Out Of The Brooder

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    well i'm concentrating on cockerels for my first batch, so i planned to order them as such. At welps you can order odd numbers of chicks as long as its 25 or over and at least 5 of each breed/and sex. But vacinated, and shipped the cockerels will be $1.88/bird
     
  7. silkiechicken

    silkiechicken Staff PhD Premium Member

    Really, the cornish x was developed and selectively bred so you don't have to take time, energy, or risk the bird caponizing them. I forget their regular FCR, but because of their fast rate, I think surgery may actually slow them down a bit due to needing to recover.

    That said, an 8-10lb dressed bird is only going to take an extra two weeks or so beyond their normal butchering time at 8-10lbs live weight.

    From my exprience, it took 50lbs of feed to get 4 of the meaties to 8.5lbs dressed in 9 weeks, raised with heat in an outdoor coop. If housed with more heat and away from elements not in 30-40F weather (they had access to the run at 3 weeks onwards), they probably would have been a lb or more heavier.

    As for flavor, they will be still so young, it probably won't make a difference. If you were talking about dual/layer types, it is the age that changes the flavor really.
     
  8. Buck Creek Chickens

    Buck Creek Chickens Have Incubator, Will Hatch

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    Quote:If you order through the co-op you can order as little as one, and you can get only cockerels, cornish do not need vac. they are not alive long enough
     
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  9. LeghornJosh

    LeghornJosh Out Of The Brooder

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    Silkie- excellent information, very helpful

    Buck creek- Ok, i'll have to check into a co-op for ordering, How do cornish hens do? is it better to butcher them young "cornish game hen" or let them grow to a nice fryer size?
     
  10. jjparke

    jjparke Chillin' With My Peeps

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    No need to caponize cornishx they get up to weight before cocks mature

    I use the rule of 3 so if I want a 10 pound chicken that's 10 lbs times 3 = 30 pounds of feed I need to feed it for it to gain 10 pounds. I've found that to be pretty close if over just a hair then I know what to budget for when I buy chics.

    BTW most supermarket chickens are 4-6 lbs dressed out and that's pretty typical of what your broilers should be at about 9 weeks old. 10 lbs dressed would be a quite large bird.

    Good for you too it's totally worth it to grow your own broilers. Not terribly cost effective but VERY rewarding when you have a freezer full of chickens.
     

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