Coryza possibility,Roadkill smell and clear nasal discharge Sinus inf?

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Barbedwirecat, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. Barbedwirecat

    Barbedwirecat Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I was an idiot and bought 2 hens yesterday. They looked healthy, no nasal discharge-eyes clear. Tonight---one has clear nasal discharge/rattly breathing and smells like well...roadkill. Is the the beginning of coryza? They have already contacted the other flock via me walking more than likely. I'd rather not cull the flock if I don't have to. I have also never culled before. I will if I have to, please help and tell me what to do. Antibiotics/vaccines/cleaning etc.

    Other than the nasal discharge/rattle she looks normal, no swelling.
     
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  2. dawg53

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    Quote:Roadkill smell is a good indicator of possible coryza. It's possible your other flock MIGHT be safe, keep your fingers crossed. Treatment for coryza is sulmet. Here's a link, scroll down to Infectious Coryza:
    http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044
     
  3. Dudu

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  4. Barbedwirecat

    Barbedwirecat Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Should I go ahead and vaccinate my flock for coryza? I wish I had known that I could. *sigh* stupidstupidstupid.

    I have read about Oxine fogging too, should I do this? I REALLY don't want to lose my flock. I have baby chicks in the house (In a seperate QT room actually, NOT with the new birds) and I'm scared to go anywhere near them now.

    I am OK with culling her if I have to, like I said. But I'm worried about the others---is there a way to prevent them from getting it even if they have to possibility of being exposed?

    ETA:
    Vaccine on it's way for the chicks. Also ordered oxine. I have Tylan 50 on hand and will be using this until I can get my hands on Baytril from the vet.

    Some people say (including the manufacturers) Baytril clears out the infection completely with no carrier activity. I'm going to be following this:

    "Use one teaspoon of Gallimycin powder and one teaspoon of Aureomycin/Sulmet powder in one gallon of drinking water for 7 days and then takeout the Aureomycin/Sulmet and boost the Gallimycin powder up to two teaspoons in a gallon of drinking water for an additional 7 days. When treatment is complete vaccinate all birds that are three weeks of age and older with ½ cc of Coryza vaccine under the skin of the neck. Repeat the vaccination with the same dose of Coryza vaccine four weeks later. Reactors ( birds that still show Coryza symptoms ) usually show up from two to four weeks after the last vaccination takes place. These birds are your carriers and should be eliminated if at all possible. Dispose of all carcasses by either burning or burying them. Do not expect birds that are sick to exhibit all of the symptoms described in this article all at the same time. While this is possible it almost never happens that way."

    I will be trying Bayril as a replacement for the water soluble because it seems like from research it is better.
     
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  5. saladin

    saladin Chillin' With My Peeps

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    If it is Coryza: YOU ARE IN TROUBLE.

    1. Kill the infected birds and bury or burn them.

    2. Clean out the main coop and disinfect from top to bottom.

    3. Run the Sulmet for 4 days. The last strain I ran into the Sulmet did not work well though. Baytril did a so, so job.

    Best advise is kill everything that comes down with it.

    After running the Sulmet, start adding 1 oz of bleach to 1 gallon of drinking water. Do this until Jesus returns. If an outbreak occurs run o 2 oz. to 1 gallon for the 2 or 3 days following the outbreak.

    There are lots of folks on the internet that just go nuts over the bleach in the water that I have recommended. IGNORE THEM. Bleach has been the salvation of my flock after I first contracted coryza over 5 years ago. I fought it hard for the first 3 years; killing more chickens than most have. Finally, I'm seeing success. I truly thank the Poultry Specialist at Clemson University that told me about the Bleach in the water. Make sure your waterer is plastic and not metal.

    I wish you the best. You are going to need it.
     
  6. Terri O

    Terri O Chillin' With My Peeps

    Quote:[​IMG] Thanks for that great laugh this morning! Almost spit my coffee on the monitor! Thanks for the advise also as I am dealing with Coryza too...well, still. [​IMG]
    Terri O
     
  7. blitz1027

    blitz1027 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I just lost several birds to coryza as well. If they a foul odor coming off of they're head then it is probably coryza. You need to get rid of the infected birds immediately and disinfect everything. Hope you can get this under control.
     
  8. Barbedwirecat

    Barbedwirecat Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I'm going to try this method and see if it works. I will cull the entire flock if I have to. Are the birds that are not sick OK for human consumption or is it just a waste. I'd rather do the cull if sick method.

    Today sick chicken had bubbly eyes, and small black dots on her comb. Don't look like lesions, but they are something to remark on.

    My chicks will be vaccinated at 3 weeks for coryza, anyone know when it is safe to put them in (how quickly they are fully protected)? I know it said 2 weeks to 60 days after culling the flock? Confusing info.

    Big old bottle of oxine is on the way too.

    I need to call my 4-H and see what the outbreak ratio is in this area and get some more info on what's recommended.

    No more random birds for me, I think I'll just be hatching my own and vaccinating from now on. Lesson learned.

    ETA: would Oxine in the water be OK? I've just heard quite a bit of good stuff about it as far as it's greater efficacy to bleach.
     
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  9. saladin

    saladin Chillin' With My Peeps

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    A word of caution on the vaccination. I didn't do it for several reasons; I'll share some.

    1. I exhibit my birds. Some states do not allow coryza vaccinated birds to be exhibited.

    There are two type of the vaccine: live and dead. Most often what is used (I don't know why) is the live vaccine. Thus, all the birds are CARRIERS!. It only has something like a 95% effective rating (if my memory is correct: which is questionable some days!); thus, you are going to continue to lose some anyway.

    2. Once began, you can't stop. It's an every year thing with new chicks.

    I just didn't have that kind of money.

    Seriously, think this thru before you do it. Not a bad option, just one I didn't take. The Poultry Specialist reccomended as a last resort.

    Also, if you sell birds or gift them then you will need to tell the person because their flock will be infected: if the live vaccine is used.

    Nasty business Coryza.
     
  10. saladin

    saladin Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Oxine may very well work in the water. I'm just too cheap. I can get 1 gallon of bleach for $2.50 at the Dollar Store.[​IMG]
     

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