Hi everyone! I am a newb here on BYC and new to quail. I am learning and would like to learn more about the original domesticated quail....... Pharoah, King, brown........... I am not interested in colors, just the plain old original brown coturnix japonica. I am interested to find out if there are any undiluted lines out there that are obtainable for breeding purposes of same type bird. I would like to have the standard and the larger jumbos. I have seen the problems with some people offering these birds but will have birds of other color come from their stock. Are these probably from a "for color" breeding that just happened to have the standard browns and are being sold as "Pharoahs" only to have some other color pattern pop out later? Are the color mutations that random from original lineage? Are the Jumbos from selective breeding of the original lines? Is there any other reason to continue the original lineage other than preservation of the color type? Any help (and/or opinions) would be greatly appreciated! Please be kind... I know there are some beautiful color patterns out there, but for now I am only interested in what I have posted here and not tring to knock anyone. Thanks!