Coydog problem

Discussion in 'Predators and Pests' started by Sweetest, Oct 15, 2013.

  1. Sweetest

    Sweetest Out Of The Brooder

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    Last Wednesday or Thursday, we had a torrential downpour. So sudden and so hard that our free-ranging (during the day when we're home) chickens got stranded under a few trees in our yard. That night, we lost a white leghorn. No blood, but a bunch of feathers, and she had been pulled through a chain link fence that they were temporarily in. I can still see the part in the chain link that bulges out from her being yanked through. The other chickens were covered in mud, like they were scrambling out of the way.
    That night, we put them in their permanent coop, even though it wasn't finished yet. I ran to the store, got some pine bedding, and dumped four bags of it in with the birds.

    Tonight, I was outside around 6pm (sun starting to go down, but more than enough light to see by) trying to round up the chickens and ducks to get them put away. I bent down to grab one of our not-so-nice RIR hens, and got distracted when she pecked me. I took a second to scold her and get the dirt from her beak off my hand. I happened to glance up to look for more birds, and ended up locking eyes with a coydog. At least I'm pretty sure that's what it was.

    It looked like a coyote and a German Shepherd. It was grey and black brindle with really light, piercing eyes. It sat with its shoulders hunched, almost like a dog comically ashamed of itself. Its fur was kind of spiky and rough looking. And out of its mouth hung a dead RIR hen. I panicked and called my dogs inside. It could have the chickens if it wanted them, but me and my three dogs weren't going to be bitten. As soon as my dogs came tearing across the lawn, it ran off. I don't know why they didn't spot or hear it earlier when it caught the chicken.

    I locked my dog inside, armed myself with a kitchen knife, my cell phone, and a bunch of rocks from the back porch planters.

    The coydog didn't come back while I was outside that time. I finished putting the birds away, lamented the loss of a good RIR, and went to talk to the neighbor who is always outside. He said he's seen a coyote with funny fur in the area, and I asked him if it could be a coydog. He said probably, even though they're a little rare in this part of NY.

    I ran to WalMart tonight, and when I came back, I spotted the same animal on our OTHER neighbors driveway, slinking along behind our chicken coop. I won't lie, I pulled up THAT neighbor's driveway with my high-beams on, hoping to stun the animal. He shrank back into the shadows. I was willing to put a dent in the car killing it if I could get it though.

    I don't own a gun. I wish I did, but I share a house with my mother in law and husband, and they are both against it. Does anyone know if there are any special rules against killing coydogs, since they are part domestic animal? Or if there are any ways to repel them? I already have (and this probably sounds gross, but it keeps the deer and foxes away) human urine around the perimeter of the garden in our yard...I don't know if I should put some along the area where I've seen this coydog? I'm afraid to use another animals' urine as a repellant, because I'm afraid to attract other predators (and who knows what's in this area)...

    I'm going to call animal control for this area tomorrow and talk to them, see if anyone else has seen this animal. I'm not free-ranging my birds anymore unless I'm outside with them 100% of the time, and they will be locked up before dusk, if I can catch them. They're safe in the coop and in the new run, I don't think anything could get in there. And as soon as it's dark and they're all roosting, they get locked in the coop anyhow.

    But if anyone could give me some help, I'd appreciate it. I'm going to try to get a picture of this animal tomorrow at dusk, if my husband will let me out of the house unprotected.
     
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  2. enola

    enola Overrun With Chickens

    In SC we have a LOT of coydogs. DNR considers them vermin just like pure coyotes.

    They keep the feral cat population in check.
     
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2013
  3. BrendaJ

    BrendaJ Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Its best to check with your local authorities before doing anything that way you know your covered. Its hard to watch an animal kill your flock & not react. Coy dogs are not super common in my area but they are around. Best of luck.
     
  4. enola

    enola Overrun With Chickens

    It is legal to protect family, pets and livestock from ANY four legged predator.
     
  5. Sweetest

    Sweetest Out Of The Brooder

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    I'm going to check tomorrow while I'm at work, and see if it would be ok for some friends who own guns (or possibly one of the neighbors) to shoot and kill an animal on my property if they're doing it FOR me.
    As much as I hate this coydog right now, I'd at least like its death to be quick. I don't want to poison it and risk poisoning other animals.
    Since my husband and M-I-L are against me owning a gun, I'll have to broach the topic of perhaps owning a bow and arrow, and learning how to shoot and kill with that... Still amounts to a dead coydog if I manage it.
    Even though the birds are safe (for now), and my 3 dogs and I are all inside, I still feel stalked and kind of violated.
     
  6. Bear Foot Farm

    Bear Foot Farm Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote: If you're over 21 it's really not THEIR choice as to what YOU own.
    Just explain to them you won't force THEM to use it
     
  7. Sweetest

    Sweetest Out Of The Brooder

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    Well, since I don't own the house, it IS their choice. When I own my own property, then the rules will be different. But I respect my M-I-L's rules and can't change them. All I can do is try to talk to her, and find ways that work for both of us.
     
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  8. Bear Foot Farm

    Bear Foot Farm Overrun With Chickens

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    If you can't have a gun then probably leg hold traps are your only option, besids more fencing
     
  9. Trefoil

    Trefoil Chillin' With My Peeps

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    An electric fence is the best defense against most 4 legged predators, just make sure you keep it hot. Its cheaper than buying a gun and works on predators you never see.
     
  10. kayjv

    kayjv New Egg

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    This has been suggesteed to me and it truely works is to get a couple livestock guardian dogs!!!!!!
     

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