Crele color

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  1. Rare Feathers Farm

    Rare Feathers Farm Overrun With Chickens

    How is this color "created?"

    Or what color(s) would I need to produce it?
     
  2. ve

    ve Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Crele is wild tipe e+ (Red Jungle Foul's black breasted red) plus barring.In what breed you want it?
     
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  3. Rare Feathers Farm

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    I was thinking Cochin...
     
  4. nzpouter

    nzpouter Chillin' With My Peeps

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    start with a cuckoo and a partridge...
     
  5. Chris09

    Chris09 Circle (M) Ranch

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    The trueCrele color is Black Breasted Red + Barring.
    You can cross a Black Breasted Red Old English with a Barred Old English.

    You could cross Partridge and Cuckoo and get color pattern close to Crele but it wont be the true color pattern because it will not have the wing triangle in the bow of the wing...

    Old English Game Bantams as Bred and Shown in the United States. ([​IMG]1995)

    Catlin (1991) describes how he made his own strain of Creles by crossing two Crele males with two unrelated Black Breasted Red females. From the mating all the sons were dark
    (intermediate) Creles and all the daughters pure Creles. By crossing first generation males and females he extracted some pure Crele males to go with the pure Crele females already obtained.
    Wolf (1991):

    SIRE.....................DAM..................SONS.............................................DAUGHTERS
    Crele....................Crele............100% Crele.......................................100% Crele
    Crele....................B.B. Red......100% Intermediate...........................100% Crele
    Intermediate.......Crele...........50% Crele & 50% Intermediate.........50% Crele & 50% B.B. Red
    Intermediate.......B.B. Red......50% Intermediate & 50% B.B. Red....50% Crele & 50% B.B. Red
    B.B. Red..............Crele............100% Intermediate...........................100% B.B. Red

    Intermediate
    In genetic term an "intermediate" male is heterozygous for barring (Bb). Females carry but one sex chromosome so a B- female would be called hemizygous; a BB (Black Breasted) male would be homozygous for barring.

    Chris
     
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  6. ve

    ve Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Crele Cochins will be hard project.You can start with Black or Partrige Cochins and mix with e+ Old English (not eb ) and when you have pure e+ Cochins mix back to Crele Old English.That will be lot of work.
     
  7. Rare Feathers Farm

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    Well, I found some barred and I could probably find partridge, too............
     
  8. poularde

    poularde Hatching mode

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    Quote:I love the Crele color. I think that would be a beautiful bird. Are you thinking Lf or bantams? I think it would be great project.[​IMG]
     
  9. Rare Feathers Farm

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    Quote:I love the Crele color. I think that would be a beautiful bird. Are you thinking Lf or bantams? I think it would be great project.[​IMG]

    I was thinking LF but bantams are so much easier to house! [​IMG]
     
  10. ScaredOfShadows

    ScaredOfShadows Chillin' With My Peeps

    Rare, that would definately be an awesome project. I much prefer bantam cochins, I just love the awww cuteness factor of bantam cochins lol. Anyway you have to keep us posted if you are going to attempt it or not!
     

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