Hello everyone =) I hope this is the right forum I am looking for informed opinions on my Silver Appleyards (large not bantam). After reading about a bit I have become just a little paranoid I could be cementing some faults into these. I started with some less that Ideal ducks, gotta start from somewhere: This is the 3 I started with. I did not use the middle one to breed, am I right in thinking she is too dark and not very good "Appleyard" colourations on her face? Was wondering weather her offspring would come out okay with the drake as he has good restricted colouring on the phase. He is just going into eclipse/ non breeding plumage here. I have selected a few offspring of theirs which I think I could breed from (just about 4 months old in pictures). Hood pattern The rest of the babies were identical to left female (above) but a bit lighter body colour with light bellies, I did not choose them due to the strange hood pattern (right) Am I right in thinking the "hood" pattern is a big no no I hope so Below are the ones I am most interested in... FEMALE 1 Concerned about the reddish colour on sides of chest? too much of it? her underbelly is white. Concerned about the darkening of colour again on the face? below top bill and below eye (not the white eye stripe) This is the back of the Duck she has light wing Coverts which I think are a required trait? (only the drake father had light wing Coverts) same female again, note muddying colour of the face, an issue to breed out? FEMALE 2 Female 1 standing behind Female 2, She is whiter but blue on wing not very pronounced. Less reddish colour on sides of chest and over all a lighter duck. It appears in this picture she has a neck ring through the back of the neck, she does not. Her chest is white and belly underneath. DRAKE 1 LEFT Drake 1, his "appleyard" colours have not come through very well on his face and his chest is quite dark compared to RIGHT Drake 2 Drake 1 again DRAKE 2 Drake 2 better restricted pattern I think. This is what the father drake looks like out of eclipse, pretty much identical. Drake 2, he has a lighter chest, concerned about his neck ring which widens a bit at the back? is this the dreaded hood again? That is the few I have selected so far, As for opinions and constructive critique, be ruthless =) I am hoping to improve what I have.