Crooked neck baby--what would you do?

Discussion in 'Raising Baby Chicks' started by BirdBrain, Apr 12, 2009.

  1. BirdBrain

    BirdBrain Prefers Frozen Tail Feathers

    May 7, 2007
    Alaska
    I had a baby hatch today that I think has crooked neck. It keeps looking straight up in the air and can't seem to help it.

    Is there a way to treat it?

    Would you cull this chick?
     
  2. lurky

    lurky Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jun 4, 2007
    Western MA
    I keep all the misfits [​IMG] They are usually the best chickens [​IMG]
     
  3. StrawberryHouseMouse

    StrawberryHouseMouse Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 23, 2009
    Cleveland, Tennessee
    I would cull it. A chick cant tell you if its uncomfortable. You can just assume it is cause its going about its routine life. But if you was like that wouldnt your neck and back hurt after a while?
     
  4. Mahonri

    Mahonri Urban Desert Chicken Enthusiast Premium Member

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    I'm with the housemouse. I'd probably cull it.
     
  5. Glenda L Heywood

    Glenda L Heywood Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Well in my opinion and having raised a lot of chicks
    I would dispose of him as here is a experience of a lady saving a star gazer which happened at 6 weeks from injury

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    Star gazing chicken. Rocky, two month old cockerel has a neurological disorder called star gazing. He was badly beaten up by either the ...
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    Star gazing chicken
    Rocky, two month old cockerel has a neurological disorder called star gazing. He was badly beaten up by either the girls or his siblings when he was four weeks old and has been living in the house, own run, garden and allotment with me ever since. A couple of weeks ago he started twisting his neck around to the left and then looking up at the sky. He does this when anyone so much as looks at him; otherwise he potters around like any other bird. When I pick him up his had hangs down (twisted round)with his eyes closed like he's dead When he's tired he drops down, twists his neck right round and then reverses in circles. At night he sleeps on the floor, on his side with his head on the floor, or on a "pillow". He likes being in small confined spaces at night and is happiest in the cat basket. I've been told that this can be caused by trauma (his bashing) and it's unlikely he'll grow out of it. Does anyone have any experience of this?

    They recommend Brewers yeast tablets so go on there and red
    but I wanted you to know what quality of life the bird will have

    This next article is very good
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    Star Gazer. This star-gazing lovebird hatched a "stargazer." This was the only stargazing chick ever hatched in this family. ...
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    Stargazing / Twirling
    Index of Bird Diseases .. Symptoms & Potential Causes ... Bird Species & Diseases They are Most Susceptible to ... Bird Health Care


    Although Stargazing (Twirling) appears most frequently in finches, my own lovebird also was born with this disease.


    This star-gazing lovebird hatched a "stargazer." This was the only stargazing chick ever hatched in this family.

    This condition was at its worse when it was little. Over the next couple of years, the condition corrected itself. The photo above shows him markedly improved at about 1 year's old. By the time the lovebird was 2 years old, it was hardly noticeable.

    The twisting of his head may have been caused by the positioning in the egg. Owner: Sibylle - [email protected]

    Symptoms:

    "Stargazers" constantly throw their head back, sleep with their heads between their legs; go around in a circle; look at the ceiling, turn their heads around in a circle and look up.

    Stargazing can strike at random and without warning or past history of problems.

    Finches are particularly susceptible - although other species have been diagnosed with it.

    Progression:

    In some birds, the condition may correct itself over time or may be corrected given certain condition ...:
    ... if it was caused by poor positioning inside the egg / poor egg condition (may only be a consideration if a bird was born with this condition)
    ... condition may be reversed is if the root cause is malnutrition and it is corrected
    ...resolution might be achieved through successfully treatment protocol (antibiotic treatments, etc.).
    If this condition is left uncorrected, the following progression) can be expected:

    Inability to fly.
    Loss of balance/equilibrium. Falls off the perch.
    Difficulty moving around in cage
    Can't find food or water - resulting in starvation
    The end result of stargazing is almost always death.


    What Cause Stargazing / Twirling?

    A definite cause has not been identified as of yet; however, the following are suspected:

    Egg positioning (?)
    Viral / bacterial or yeast infection
    Chemical imbalance
    Vitamin and/or mineral (nutritional) deficiency; Vitamin D deficiency (lack of natural sunlight exposure). Too much calcium can result in a ‘drunken bird' look
    Genetic predisposition
    Inner-ear problem


    Treatment for Stargazing

    The following treatments have been reported as being fairly effective:

    Nystatin
    Trimethoprim Sulfa
    Vitamin B 12 to strengthen the nervous system
    Enhanced nutrition to correct any nutritional deficiencies



    Prevention of Stargazing

    The following steps will be an important step in not only preventing this disease, but others too.

    Prevent birds which carry the genetic predisposition for this disease from breeding so that they cannot pass this condition on to their offspring
    Provide the best nutrition possible.
    Provide uncontaminated water and clean air
    Keep your bird's environment clean
     
  6. Crazy4Chicks

    Crazy4Chicks Chillin' With My Peeps

    Nov 20, 2007
    Glendale, AZ
    I have a coturnix quail that was hatched with a crooked neck I thought for sure I would have to cull - but did not have the heart to - so I let him/her be and figured let nature take its course -- that baby is now 6 weeks old and doing great - shows no signs of slowing down LOL

    I would keep the baby alive and give it a chance !!
     
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  7. chickenwhisperer123

    chickenwhisperer123 Whispers Loudly

    Mar 7, 2009
    Lincoln, Nebraska
    I dont know what I would do....
    How do you guys know it wont get better?
    Maybe it got hurt pushing itself out of the egg, and will get better...
    Im not saying you should save it, Im saying I guess I would let it go naturally, (OR LIVE NATURALLY!)
    Good Luck with whatever you decide.
    Im prayin' for the little guy!
    Jason
     
  8. Bantam Bodon

    Bantam Bodon Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Years ago we had a baby ring neck pheasant with a twisted neck like that, we just figured it wouldn't live very long so we left it alone. To our surprise, it lived to adult hood. We released it by the house and it would come and go and did its own thing. It never seemed to be in any pain but when it would run away from you, it would run in a circle and always ended up where it started.
     
  9. ILOVEFRIZZLES

    ILOVEFRIZZLES Red Roof Hens

    Feb 2, 2009
    Hamilton Ga
    If it just hatch leave it alone I have had some that could not hold up there head at first but after they were dry they were fine. Have one that could not hold up it head of a day or two and leg were bad. Name it Forest and it is doing great now.
     
  10. countrybum

    countrybum Chillin' With My Peeps

    Sep 15, 2008
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    I am sorry, but I would have to keep it a few days and see if it does better. I had to hatch that have a leg issue, if the die of natural causes, so be it. But they may just be fine. I have had a few that I thought had neck issues and then after a few days, they were fine.

    Just wait a bit.
     

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