cross beak and crooked toe...(beyond the search section)

Discussion in 'Raising Baby Chicks' started by BarkerChickens, Apr 12, 2009.

  1. BarkerChickens

    BarkerChickens Microbrewing Chickenologist

    Nov 25, 2007
    High Desert, CA
    I have read through MANY posts regarding cross beak and crooked toes, but have a couple questions that weren't specifically answered.

    We have 49 straight-run chicks from Welp (Privett). We will keep the pullets and a couple cockerels, but the rest of the cockerels will be butchered. One of my black Jersey Giants has a crooked toe and started about a week ago (they are almost 3 wks old). The last joint twists outward. I am not sure if it was due to an injury or just appeared late. It doesn't seem to bother the chick and he/she jumps onto things as if it is not an issue. One post had mentioned that it may be a vitamin deficiency, another said genetic, and a third said high temp in the incubator. First question) If this is a hen, we are keeping it. Is this a genetic thing to be weary of (though it showed up late?) and will it get worse? Also, I don't think taping it at this point will help..the joint feels stiff in that position. A possible break that healed?

    I also have a salmon Faverolle cockerel that is developing a cross beak. We noticed it for the first time yesterday. It is VERY mild at this point. I noticed it because there is a small gap between the to and bottom of the beak. The tip of the bottom beak touches the left side of the tip of the top beak. Like I said, it is very minor. I have read a number of posts under the search section and I understand that it can be genetic and that it may get worse over time. This chick has no problem eating at this point. Obviously, we will not keep this roo since we want to breed our chickens. Question two) Considering that it is very minor at 3 wks of age, can it still become a severe cross beak by the time of culling (~4 months)? I haven't seen a post that describes the progression of cross beak over time, so I am not sure what to expect. Side note: Culling now is not an option since he can eat fine and we would like to try to keep him for meat.

    Thanks so much!
     
  2. debilorrah

    debilorrah The Great Guru of Yap Premium Member

    I have experience with either of those, but BUMP....
     
  3. EweSheep

    EweSheep Flock Mistress

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    Is this a genetic thing to be weary of (though it showed up late?) and will it get worse? Also, I don't think taping it at this point will help..the joint feels stiff in that position. A possible break that healed?

    I have a Black Orp bantam that I had that problem, and it showed up about two weeks of age and it did not affect her walking and using that foot. I dont think it will get too much worse but enjoy her as a laying hen but not breeding. To avoid all possibilities, of high heat incubation, genetics, broken, vitamin def. or bad feed, I would not use any crooked toed chicks for breeding. If a roo, use him for meat.

    Question two) Considering that it is very minor at 3 wks of age, can it still become a severe cross beak by the time of culling (~4 months)?

    It's possible they will get worse. I had a chick that had a mild bite and then around three months of age, it was crossed and had to put it down which he was losing weight and not eating properly. He would have been good eating bird but it was not cost effective to keep going to get up to the butchering weight.
     
  4. kycklingmamma

    kycklingmamma Chillin' With My Peeps

    I really don't know if this will help you, but we have a Australorp with a crossed beak, hers didn't show up auntil she was about 4 months though. Now she is about a year and she is doing great. Hers is pretty severe but it hasen't slowed her down. She is thinner than the others and doesn't seem to maybe preen herself as good, but with help from us she is doing very well...and she gives us an egg a day. Hers like a said didn't show up until late, but it got severe fast. If you are willing to maybe feed him in a deeper bowl ( that is what we have to do for her) as well as maybe trim his beak he should be fine until you cull him.

    kycklingmamma
     
  5. BarkerChickens

    BarkerChickens Microbrewing Chickenologist

    Nov 25, 2007
    High Desert, CA
    Thanks for the replies! I am glad to hear that the crooked toe probably won't any worse! [​IMG] We'll just not use her for breeding if it turns out to be a pullet (roo is dinner, so problem there).

    As for the crossed beak...well, I guess it seems that we'll have to wait and see, huh? We do not mind feeding him in a deep dish if it gets severe. Right now he can eat with the best of the 'em, but if (or rather when) it gets worse, we can give him a deep bowl in necessary. We won't make him suffer, so he'll probably be our first butcher...poor guy.
     

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