?cross breeding for NEW color-Lace Genetics-Sebright?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by that_crazy_lady, Nov 11, 2009.

  1. that_crazy_lady

    that_crazy_lady Chillin' With My Peeps

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    OK I've been thinking for years {even the ones I didn't have birds} about how much I would like to see a few other colored Sebright. what genetics I get are how the blue/black/splash works, and lavender dalutes/softens other base colors.

    What I'd like to get,
    Changes in lace color, blue, and red to start with.
    Changes in base color, blue, black, with contrasting lace colors, like blue/black, blue/red, blue/white, black/white, black/red, black/blue
    Better mothers- lay more, go broody.

    Would it be easyer to change the lace or base color?
    I'm thinking lace, but I really don't know.

    How would I get red lace?
    would I need to use RIR bantam? they are the only solid red banny I can think of. or could I use one of the other breeds I'm thinking of

    What breed should I use for blue/black Rosecomb or OEGB?
    I think Rosecome would be better, rose combed, eggs are white, mothering traite would be helpfull, but what about the white earlobes? how hard will that be to breed out? I know there is no hen feathering in ether breed.

    How would you do it? What color{s} would you go for first?

    I know this will take years, and more then likely be a life time thing unless I sell out. a lot of money, and a lot of space. But I blan to take it one step at a time.
    And I'm looking out for Chicken Genetice books and sites

    arent you all glad I said I was crazy to start with. lol
     
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  2. Year of the Rooster

    Year of the Rooster Sebright Savvy

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    I'm intrigued! [​IMG] I'll be keeping an eye on this. Though part of me detests any other color Sebright, curiosity has me. I'd imagine that if you want a Blue laced Red or something of the like, that you would use a bantam Wyandotte, but then type would be an issue as well. From my limited experience, I hatched out a SebrightxBlack Australorp in July. The boy turned out to be partially hen feathered and bigger than his father. As far as earlobes, I'm not sure if that's a big deal or not or if they are ignored. [​IMG] Now you've got me thinking [​IMG]
     
  3. flyingmonkeypoop

    flyingmonkeypoop Overrun With Chickens

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    I know there is a guy at the-coop working on BLR and some other colors, might try contacting him. I agree though, more colors would be good. Maybe barred also.
     
  4. that_crazy_lady

    that_crazy_lady Chillin' With My Peeps

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    well I don't really like the idea of barred or solid colored Sebrights, after all lacing is what they are knowen for. but I do think other colors would get the breed a little larger fan club, as would better laying & brooding

    I forgot there was bantam Wyandottes, but like you said "typ" would be was off. hmm...choises
    blue lace will be my first goal, and I have a blue OGEB roo, but I mite try to get a Blue Rosecomb roo, and kinda fuge around for the first season??? see what cross I like better befor I really jump in.

    what I'm really clueless on is the earlobes and if White Laced Black is posible

    I'm glad I got more wheels turning [​IMG]
     
  5. that_crazy_lady

    that_crazy_lady Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Any one else have any thoughts on this one?
     
  6. Year of the Rooster

    Year of the Rooster Sebright Savvy

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    Have you tried using the chicken calculator?
     
  7. Chris09

    Chris09 Circle (M) Ranch

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    Since Lavender changes black to Self Lavender and Red to Buff or Cream I would think that you could try crossing a Gold laced Sebright with a Lavender ( Self Blue ) and with some time you could get some Lavender Laced Buffs or Lavender Laced Creams.

    Chris
     
  8. that_crazy_lady

    that_crazy_lady Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Oh I did not even think of that chirs, Lavender Laced Buffs

    I tried the chicken befor just for bule lace and it showed it would work part of the time, but yesterday it was just showing black or white [​IMG] and I know I did the same cross. http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm#kipcalculator this is it right? or is there another one.

    I just tried Lavender x Golden Sebright just for kicks, and it came out all solid black, I know thats not ture.
     
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  9. flyingmonkeypoop

    flyingmonkeypoop Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:It is for the most part. The chicks will be mostly solid black with some gold showing through.
     
  10. Chris09

    Chris09 Circle (M) Ranch

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    just tried Lavender x Golden Sebright just for kicks, and it came out all solid black, I know that's not ture.

    Right! Lavender should/will turn Black to Self Lavender... I did that same cross and got the same thing.. ( got all Black ).. It could be a glitch or something...
    You could ask Kris or Tadkerson (he did the Sex-linked sticky) and see what they say..

    Chris​
     
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