Crossing Laced Chickens?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Omniskies, Jan 28, 2009.

  1. Omniskies

    Omniskies Chillin' With My Peeps

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    What do you get when you cross gold, silver, etc, lacing colors? Does anyone have any pictures?

    I have some Blue Laced Red Wyandottes and a few Silver Laced Wyandottes. I'd like to cross the Blue rooster over the Silver hens.

    Will it be a weird-colored lacing? Come out more spangled?
     
  2. jab91864

    jab91864 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 3, 2007
    Northern Michigan
    Not much help here but the blue and the black gene are related so I would think the black in the lacing of the SLW would result in more black lacing and not be replaced by blue.

    I could very much be wrong. I am sure someone who knows more will be along shortly.

    Julie [​IMG]
     
  3. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    Blue and black are not related. Blue dilutes black, but has little affect on red.

    Lacing is caused by the pattern gene (Pg).

    The BLR is gold, and the silver laced is silver, so you are creating a sex-linked cross. The outcome is different with a silver laced male & BLR female.
     
  4. Vcomb

    Vcomb Chillin' With My Peeps

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    blue laced red rooster over silver laced hen will give you blue laced red and black laced red pullets and the cockerals ill be black or blue laced with silver bodies and most likely buttery hackles & saddles and red shoulders.
     
  5. Omniskies

    Omniskies Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thanks, Sonoran. So the chicks will be sex linked with a BLR x SL cross. What will the chicks look like? I'm mostly interested in whether there would be silver splashes in the BLR chicks, or blue/red splashes in the SL chicks.

    I may have to get some more SL hens...

    I thought about combining BLR and GL, but I heard that once you get gold into your BLR genes it's virtually impossible to go back to red. I didn't want to mess things up. Especially with all of the Blue Laced Gold chicks out there being sold as Blue Laced Reds.

    I've heard that the Pg gene is extremely difficult to maintain if you cross it with a solid color. I have a couple Easter Egger hens that have blue/gold lacing on the neck feathers, then a mostly gold-colored body. I know the genetics are funky with Easter Eggers since they're a mish-mash of virtually anything, but do you think that if I crossed an Easter Egger hen that already shows some signs of lacing with a BLR or SL rooster I could get more defined lacing?

    Lastly...is there a book on chicken genetics? I know there are websites, but I want to sit and stare at a book for genetics and try to figure all of this out. I'm too interested in color patterns and breeding experiments to not have something to refer.
     
  6. briarpatchfarms

    briarpatchfarms Chillin' With My Peeps

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    well i know if you cross the sebrights gold and silver you get buff with white lacing or citrus color go to feathersite.com and look at the sebright page to see the colors out of them

    Hope you find your anwser though

    Goo Luck
     
  7. Blisschick

    Blisschick not rusty

    Feb 20, 2007
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    Quote:I don't know what you'll get putting the BLR over the SL, but I do know that if you put a SL over BLR you will get sex-linked BLR females. The males will be all sorts of colors.
     
  8. Vcomb

    Vcomb Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:the creation of chamois (white laced buff) sebrights in that manner seems unlikely, as to get that color you need dominant white for the lacing, which would then turn silver lace into solid white looking birds and gold lace into buff lace (chamois).
     
  9. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    There is a new genetics book due out any day titled Genetics of Chicken Colours: The Basics. I am eagerly awaiting its English printing. I queried earlier this week and was told it should be available by February 1st.

    You can see sample pages at http://www.chickencolours.com/

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    there are older works by Hollander, Hutt, Crawford, Carefoot, Jeffrey...

    http://www.edelras.nl/chickengenetics/links.html has a rather thorough list books and also websites
     
  10. lilshadow

    lilshadow Chillin' With My Peeps

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    So what do they cross to get the BLR?
     

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