distiller grains

Discussion in 'Feeding & Watering Your Flock' started by pozarnsk, Sep 23, 2008.

  1. pozarnsk

    pozarnsk Out Of The Brooder

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    Anyone feeding dried distillers grain to their chickens? Curious as to how they take to it, and how much you can feed......
     
  2. AnthonyT

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    I have started using DDG as it is cheaper than corn here and has more protein in it, but you still need a good protein supplement like soybean meal or fish meal with it. I have used up to 15% of the ration as DDG with no problems. The birds don't seem to care and eat it fine. Be sure when buying DDG that it has not been burnt in the drying process. They should be a nice light brown color, a little darker than a manilla envelope. If they get darker than say, cardboard, they have been over heated and burnt. DDG should also have a pleasant sweet smell to them. Hope this helps.
     
  3. marymac

    marymac Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Where / what stores carry this product?
     
  4. pozarnsk

    pozarnsk Out Of The Brooder

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    DDG is a by product of ethanol production, typically very cheap, around $80 a ton, so the more you can use the better.

    I was thinking about supplementing my feed with DDG, and also with elevator screenings. The fewere bags of feed one has to buy at $12-15/50lb the better my bottom line will look.
     
  5. SandraMort

    SandraMort Chillin' With My Peeps

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    So DDG plus protein (grubs & scrap fish/meat) = good diet? Or do you still need other grains?

    And where do you find it?
     
  6. AnthonyT

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    DDG can be bought at just about any feed mill. You won't find it at a feed store. It is but one component in a complete mixed ration. Feeding just DDG and a few scraps of fish, meat and bugs will not work. The birds will not eat DDG straight up (at least not much of it), it has to be mixed to be eaten well. Like I said, 15% maximum in the ration, even Tyson will not go higher than this and they always use a lowest cost ration formula. Everyone always looks at the protein number, but the quality of the protein is also very important. DDG is 25% or so protein, but it is only so-so quality, deficient in lysine and a couple other amino acids. When you feed protein you are really feeding amino acids. If they are not present in the correct ratios it doens't matter how high the protein content is, the birds will not be at full potential and can even die. That's why feed has things like soybean meal, fish meal, etc. in them - to balance out the amino acids and increase the protein. Of course, if any of the ingrediants have been handled poorly in production it can also degrade the nutrients. You have to shop carefully for feed ingrediants.
     
  7. hensonly

    hensonly Chillin' With My Peeps

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    What about feeding it fresh? My DH brews his own beer, can we give them the mushy stuff that's left? It's not fermented at that point, so the chirps won't get drunk! Would there be any harm in giving it to them before it's dried? and what's the best way to dry it myself?
     
  8. Chicabee19

    Chicabee19 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    This is a good thread...

    there is a big brewery near us - a friend of ours works there. I am going to ask him if there are any left-overs available.
     
  9. SandraMort

    SandraMort Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 7, 2008
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    Fresh from a brewery works fine, but it spoils within a day or two.

    Dried from a distillery is better for longer term storage.

    Free is best! [​IMG]

    (See how much I've learned from you guys?)
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2008
  10. pimpdaddywrinkles

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    Great thread.

    A friend of mine gets the grain from a local brewer and puts out a big bin of it and lets the birds have there way with it. he has a lot of birds.

    I was wondering if brewers grain / distiller grains are ok for laying hens.
     

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