Dk RI. Reds vs RI. Reds vs Dark RI.Reds

[DaKid]

Ok Looking at all my catalogs on hatching and day old chicks, I see there is RI REDS from Murry Mc, Murry Hatchery and then there is Dark RI Reds from Welp Hatchery as anyone bought from both hatchery and see a difference in both bird or are they the same I do see that that Welp also has alone with the Dark RI. Reds that they sell RI. Reds I assume that the Dark RI Reds are a more black or deeper red /Black in color then the Reg. RI Reds , which are a red color .
And I sure that the NH Reds are more lighter (like an red/orange color ) that the RI. Reds and the Dark RI. Reds are more like a Dark Red / black color .

Would this be correct.


What is the true colors of all three ;

NH. REDS

RI. REDS

and Dark RI. Reds

Or are they that close in color .


Which is the true RI Reds


Thanks
Alan




Alan

 

[rirluvr]

McMurray only sells what they call production RIRs .. New Hamshire Reds were at one point RIRs with selective breeding. P-RIRs I have bought from them before they are good laying hens but not "pure blood". Hence the production word in there.

I don't know about the other hatchery.

Correction: Production RIRs are not crossed New Hampshire and RIRS Sorry about that. I meant to say New Hampshire were once RIRs with selective breeding. (taken from Mcmurray website)

 

[Pine Grove]

True RIR's are this color..None of the hatcheries have them this dark

 

[Goose and Fig]

Here is one of McMurray's production reds for comparison:

NHR are lighter- more or a dark orange, but I can't say I've ever seen the hatchery/non-hatchery comparison.

 

[NYREDS]

Some years back Rhode Island Red breeders went in 2 directions. Some selected to breed toward the standard, others selected for productivity. The result is 2 types of Reds, those conforming to the Standard description & those that vary from the Standard but are very productive. So-called production Reds are not a cross between Rhode Island Reds & New Hampshires, they are Reds selected for productivity.
Early breeders considered both traits & there were once flocks of Standard bred Reds that were very productive. Today's show breeders pay little attention to productivity.

 

[cubalaya]

actually there are three types, true rir, dark rir, and production reds.

 

[Goose and Fig]

What puzzles me is that my RIR hens from MM were dark, but the roo was kinda in-between. Regardless- they were great layers. Sold them off because the roo wouldn't stop jumping on everyone's back.

 

[rirluvr]

Here are some pics of my P-RIRs from McMurray.

aren't they gorgeous? I think so. Perfect feet, perfect body, each one has a great personality.

 

[speckledhen]

I have had both. I have one remaining hatchery RIR lady, who is a very rich color for hatchery stock, but nowhere near black-red that my three breeder types are. Also, the deep, dark ladies are about 1/3 to 1/2 again larger than my hatchery girl. In fact, I've often called them Amazon-hens because of their size. They are as productive as the hatchery stock; at least, the ones I have are. Very sweet girls, mind their own business, not in the least aggressive. In fact, my little Ameraucana hens can bully them.

 

[cedar post]

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What's the difference between true RIR and dark RIR if they are the same color?