I have been going through a trial with one of NN - took to vet - (says he does chickens but not so sure) said he could not find evidence of gape worm or trach (?) mites but since no discharge and her lungs sounded clear then she might have work. Did say that her trach was irratated (so was I when I got the bill) and suggested antibiotics and worming. (which I already had been recommended by you guys) Explained flock is organic and I HATE the idea of NOT knowing what it is being treated especially with antibiotics (that's how super bugs get started). Needless to say he was then quick to end the appt and told me I was free to call if I felt I wanted to try the antibiotics and wormer. I see no evidence of worms in anyone's poop, my girl is beyond active (tried to fly up and roost on sink) hates being alone. Wanted to wander around the bathroom where she is convalescing and very interested in her world.... so not sounding like IB or other illness. So I guess my question is do gape worms pass in stool? Is it possible that she DID eat something that irrarted her throat? like Ice Melt? ps I did try the throat swab thing x2 - saw no red ys or anything.