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do i have all of the right information on guineafowl

Discussion in 'Guinea Fowl' started by shanezoobuild, Mar 15, 2016.

  1. shanezoobuild

    shanezoobuild Out Of The Brooder

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    Guinea fowl
    I’m designing a community farm and I was wondering if you could do both or one of the following for me and either answer a few questions I have and or read over my care sheet and tell me if there’s any wrong information or things you would do differently.

    Questions
    When is too old to breed
    Male to female hatch rate
    Hours to assist
    Brooder height
    Website or book that lists treatment and diseases
    Write up



    Guinea fowl

    Special care


    Temperament
    Temperamental. Aggressive during breeding season
    Disease symptoms

    Cost
    Egg cost 3.50
    Chick cost 3.60
    Chick to grower feed amount 670g
    Grower to butcher feed amount 4090g
    Maintenance feed amount 635g

    Enclosure

    Size
    4 sf
    Height
    3f
    Fence type
    Chicken wire
    Shelter
    Barn with opening
    Equipment
    Food,water,grit and calcium dish
    Terrain
    Grass and wire
    Diet

    Feed type

    Game bird or chicken maintainer 18%
    Amount
    Constant
    Minerals/other
    Grit
    Breeding

    Sexing

    Vent check. Males will make a sound that sounds like there saying buck wheat buckwheat.
    Ratio
    1-6. (males can breed with chickens but there is a low fertility )
    Age

    8 months
    Season
    Spring
    Diet
    Maintainer feed 18% and added calcium dish
    Eggs

    Clutch size and numbers per year

    12-15. 7 clutches
    Collecting time
    Morning
    Hatch time
    28
    Incubation temp
    100
    Humidity
    60-55%
    Candling
    6 days
    Stop turning
    25
    Lock down
    75
    When to assist

    Move to brooder

    Dry
    Brooder
    Size

    1.5 sf
    Height

    Temperature decreasing

    6 weeks
    Feed type length
    Turkey chick starter 6 weeks
    Water dishes
    No marbles
    Special nutrients
    Grit
    Grow out pen

    Size

    4 sf
    Feed type length
    Turkey chick starter until 6 weeks then grower.
    Butcher


    Butcher age
    14
     
  2. R2elk

    R2elk Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Lots of misinformation. Read the Raising Guinea Fowl 101 thread and pay particular attention to posts made by @PeepsCA

    https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/312682/raising-guinea-fowl-101

    Only females make the buckwheat sound. Males make the chi sound. If seeking guinea/chicken hybrids it is more likely that a rooster will breed with a guinea hen than having a guinea cock breed with a chicken hen. Best ratio of cocks to hens is 1 to 1.

    Guineas are a flock bird and do best when there are at least 10 or more in the flock. They also do best when housed separately. They have a completely different set of mannerisms than do other poultry. Failure to provide them with a coop at night that they are trained to use can lead to massive losses from predators such as raccoons and owls. Failure to get the hens to use safe nesting areas often leads to predators taking the hens from their hidden nests.
     
  3. Trefoil

    Trefoil Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Don't recommend using poultry wire except as use inside a predator proof enclosure.
     
  4. shanezoobuild

    shanezoobuild Out Of The Brooder

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    bumblefoot?
     
  5. R2elk

    R2elk Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I haven't run into bumblefoot in any of my poultry.
     
  6. guineapeeps

    guineapeeps Chillin' With My Peeps

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    You have a lot of good info, but I noticed under your sexting section, you had that the males make the "buckwheat" sound. The females are actually the ones that make the 2 syllable "buckwheat "sound and the males have a 1 syllable "squawk".
     
  7. perchie.girl

    perchie.girl Desert Dweller Premium Member

    Questions
    1. When is too old to breed. I dont know this I havent had a flock long enough to determine this.

    2. Male to female hatch rate. As far as I know 50 50.
    3. Hours to assist. Assisted hatching is for experts. I personally woudnt do it.
    4. Brooder height Same as Chickens
    5. Website or book that lists treatment and diseases. I dont know one. They stay pretty healthy.


    Write up. OF what? Oh this is what you have found out so far? your info is pretty off.

    Special care.

    It really depends on your circumstances If you are hobby farming or commercially raising them...

    Temperament
    Temperamental. Aggressive during breeding season.... Yeah but aggression amongst Guinea fowl is a non issue. They sort themselves out every year. The older they get the more mellow they get. They are NOT chickens so dont expect them to behave that way. they will attack a threat with the whole flock. No matter the season.
    Disease symptoms
    No info
    Cost
    Egg cost 3.50

    IT really depends on where you are getting your eggs. Breeder or Commercial hatchery.
    Chick cost 3.60
    They are KEETS not chicks and again it depens on where you are getting your Keets.
    Chick to grower feed amount 670g
    Dont forget to factor in how much feed they waste. its Keets not chicks
    Grower to butcher feed amount 4090g

    I havent brought them to butcher weight yet Again Find a way so they dont waste feed.
    Maintenance feed amount 635g
    I didnt quantify this when I was raising them.


    Enclosure
    Size
    4 sf
    I actually doubled that for my Guinea fowl. They are runners and can even run along perches. Again environment and weather are big considerations for housing.

    Height 3f
    Um no My perches were set at six feet up...

    Fence type Chicken wire
    Use chicken wire on interior partitions for poultry ONLY. Chicken wire is only good for keeping poultry contained. All external wire should be Hardware cloth or heavier gauge wire. Because I have mountain lions and feral dogs My wire of choice is Aviary wire strong enough to contain Hook bills such as parrots. which is 12.5 gauge. Yep I will go overboard the next time but I am tired of loosing WHOLE flocks to predators. For construction materials and ideas I suggest you visit the Coop building section.

    Shelter Barn with opening
    Well thats kind of Waiving a vague wand at it. Again it depends on your environment and what you have available. They Need shelter from Weather. Here in the desert that means a wind break on the two sides that have prevailing winds and a roof. Yep I had snow in the coop but where they roosted was protected from the elements. Access to the outside needs to be controlled or you will have them roosting in the trees.

    Equipment Food,water,grit and calcium dish
    yep
    Terrain Grass and wire
    Depends on your environment really. I have no grass.


    Diet
    Feed type
    Game bird or chicken maintainer 18%
    I used Flock Raiser. Becxause I wasnt able to free range so they could get bugs I supplemented with 5 percent Cat fish chow.

    Amount Constant
    i free fed as well but expect to feed all sorts of other critters too.

    Minerals/other Grit

    Breeding

    Sexing
    Vent check. Males will make a sound that sounds like there saying buck wheat buckwheat.
    Vent sexing is not done on Guinea Fowl. Guinea Hens are the ones that make the Buck Wheat noise. IF you are careful when they are Keets they do make a different noise. What you will hear is a constant peep out of them all but by two or three weeks you will hear individual voices that Go Peep Peep in rapid succession Identifying that keet is next to impossible... LOL. But I was very grateful to know I had at least a few in my mob.

    Ratio 1-6. (males can breed with chickens but there is a low fertility )
    In a natural flock the ratio is around 1-1. Unless you are breeding for SOP or color then 1-6 or there abouts. Males CANNOT mate with Chickens naturally. Their equipment isnt sufficient. Roosters though have been known to mate with Guinea fowl on occasion. Firtility is an issue true. The offspring from what I have read are Sterile like mules.
    There have been crosses between: chickens, Peacocks, Pheasants, and other species of Guinea Fowl.

    Age 8 months

    Season Spring
    Diet Maintainer feed 18% and added calcium dish
    Eggs

    Clutch size and numbers per year
    12-15. 7 clutches
    Laying season starts in spring and ends in fall. it really depends on your climate. My laying season started in February and ended in November. Good luck on getting them to lay in a nest of any kind.

    Collecting time Morning
    PeepsCA kept her Guineas locked in the coop till all eggs were laid. which was around 2 pm

    Hatch time 28
    Incubation temp 100
    Humidity 60-55%
    Candling 6 days
    make sure you have a Bright Candler. Those eggs are dense.

    Stop turning 25
    Lock down 75
    When to assist

    Move to brooder
    Dry
    Brooder Size 1.5 sf
    Height
    By the time Guinea Keets are two weeks old they can Fly Have a lid on the brooder and enough room because they are a thundering herd.... I had forty i was brooding up.
    Temperature decreasing 6 weeks
    Feed type length Turkey chick starter 6 weeks
    Water dishes No marbles
    Marbles are necessary to give them something shiny to peck at for water. And to keep them from falling in. Guinea Keets are very small like Bantam chicks.



    Thats about it for my input.

    deb
     
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  8. perchie.girl

    perchie.girl Desert Dweller Premium Member

     

  9. Females also make the chi chi chi alarm sound, but yes, they only buckwheat.

    Guineas are basically night blind. Having a low light in the coop helps get them in. They can fly to roost in trees, but so do owls.

    My guineas coop with my chickens, fwiw.
     

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