Just sold the horse, so I don't need saddles anymore! The dressade saddle is 17", unmarked, and used twice. I really liked it, but it was too wide for the horse, a TB with high withers. It should fit most QH or warmblood types. It comes with a 22" Ovation girth and a shaped pad. The close contact saddle is also unmarked, but it does have legible writing stamped on the inside, "Spring Steel" and "Made in England". It is similar in ride to my old Crosby Prix de Saute (amazing!). It is 16.5", and it has no knee rolls. I prefer them that way, because it puts your leg right next to the horse with a much better feel. It comes with a 56" HDR girth and possibly a shaped pad. The pad is pretty old, and I'm not going to put it in my washer. I might take a scrub brush to it outside with the hose, if you really want it, but it would make better nesting material for a litter of cats. I also have one set of stirrups and leathers, both purchased new this summer. The leathers are black, because I bought them for the dressage saddle before I had the cc. The cc saddle is dark enough that it doesn't make much of a difference. They are available for $25. I also have a new Wintec breastcollar. It is dark brown, and I love the fact that it isn't leather and doesn't need coddling. I can throw that in a box for $30, and I'll include a standing attatchment that I've had lying around for years. I can box them up and take them to the P.O. to get a shipping quote, and I know that it's much less than the average $40 quoted on most saddles on Ebay. I can get more photos and take more measurements; just ask!