D'Uccles...Self-Blue & Lavender the same thing? PICS added post #5

[BWchicken]

When referring to D'Uccles, are Self-Blue and Lavender the same thing? I've seen some referred to as one or the other, sometimes both, but they look exactly the same to me.

 

[GypsyChic]

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Yes, lavender & "self blue" are the same thing. There are actually pure solid BLUE D'uccles too though

 

[TurtleFeathers]

Depends on who you're talking to as to what term is used, but lavender and self blue are the same. *I* prefer to use "lavender", only because "self blue" is often confused with Andalusian blue ("BBS").

Lavender is a solid pale blue (hence, the term "self") which is inherited recessively. One dose of lavender = a "split" (where the bird carries the gene, but its not visible), two doses = a visually lavender bird.

Andalusian blue can range from a light slate grey to a very dark bluish charcoal grey, and often the head and hackles can be a shade or two darker than the rest of the body - smooth feathers normally have a laced effect as well. It is a dominant gene and carriers are not genetically possible. Its a "in your face" gene - if you don't see it, it isn't there. One dose = blue, two doses = "splash".

 

[GypsyChic]

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I agree w/Kat and I also use the term "lavender"

 

[BWchicken]

Thanks! So my little roo is a lavender right?
He's hatchery quality I know but I absolutely love him. I think he's beautiful! He's a good flock leader and a good lap chicken to boot!

 

[arianna]

He's gorgeous

 

[GypsyChic]

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Appears to be lavender but has yellow saddle feathers and looks like some coming in on hackles, so MAYBE a porcelain. Also since he's not "fully bearded", I believe he would be considered a "Booted Bantam" due to large wattles. Pretty boy indeed

Anyone else want to chime in on this??

 

[TurtleFeathers]

Definitely not porcelain - he has no mottling.

 

[BWchicken]

Thanks for your replies! I think the yellowish saddles and hackles are from sun bleaching, he stays out all day. He has no obvious mottling, his feathers are pretty much solid light gray/blue with subtle darker horizontal lines on the individual feathers.

Booted Bantam? I was sure he was a D'Uccle. I've seen pics of D'Uccles with wattles like his, especially the lavender ones. I guess I need to do some more research, but if anyone wants to enlighten me please do!

As far as color, I think he is a lavender but would love to hear more opinions. I can post more pics if that would help, I have pics of him as a chick and as a juvenile. I can take pics of an individual feather too if needed.

 

[TurtleFeathers]

He is lavender, but is lacking somewhat in d'uccle type - but thats ok, because lavender is a work in progress in many breeds nowadays. I have a lavender rooster that looks much like your guy, minus the beard - but mine is supposed to be a bantam cochin.