Well I said I would NEVER get any ducks but I am having a hard time resisting their charm. With their cute web feet and duck bills. My grandma had ducks when I was little right along with her chickens and geese (now that is one I will NEVER have, hers liked to chase and bite me) but I still know very little about them. I have done a lot of research about ducks because I wasnt even sure they would be able to survive the Minnesota winters but I have found out they can. I want a large duck, one that cant fly because I want to keep them in a certain area, and not all over my yard. Their area will be 80 ft by 80 ft with kiddy pool or two because I dont have a pond. I would also like to keep them out of the livestock tanks which are another reason I want ones that dont fly. I want a large dual purpose duck that is a good layer, good looking, friendly, and not very noisy. I think I have narrowed it down to two breeds. The Saxony and the Silver Appleyard (large). I am looking to get 15 total to start with maybe 7 Saxony and 8 Silver Appleyard that is if they are not sold out already. What do you think? Do they sound like they are what I am looking for?