Okay for all of you that purchased the leg bands from the guy on ebay, the colored rubber bands type thing TAKE THEM OFF YOUR BIRDS!!! I had 3 young bird with them on so I could tell them apart and one started lymping on that leg, when I put them on a week ago they were not tight on any of them I wanted them loose. Well I took the bands off and they have shrunk and dug into their leg. I got all mine off but 2 of them their leg looks bad so I just wanted to warn anybody that did the same thing I did.