efowl afoul?

Discussion in 'Ducks' started by suenotto, Aug 31, 2010.

  1. suenotto

    suenotto Out Of The Brooder

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    It turned out that of the 12 ducks I received from efowl (perhaps efoul is a better name..) only 4 are females. I paid for 2 females and the other 10 straight run. That makes 2 out of 10 or 20% females in their straight run shipment. Should I complain? Will it make any difference?

    I plan to sell 5 drakes next week to a couple who has 1 male only. I let 3 other residents in, 3 Campine chickens, 2 hens and a roo. The roo seems nasty and came after me after I pushed him off the hen (he jumped on her and was pecking her neck) when I was throwing some scratch down this evening. He's really handsome, so I hate to kill him right off the bat, but still, I can not be walking with a rake everywhere in the yard!!
     
  2. redhen

    redhen Kiss My Grits... Premium Member

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    Why would you complain? You ordered straight-run...silly! [​IMG]
     
  3. Buck Creek Chickens

    Buck Creek Chickens Have Incubator, Will Hatch

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    Quote:if you want a small or no boys don't order straight run, stright run is a crap shoot you get what you get. and the roo came after you because you where interrupting his fun, he was mating the hen
     
  4. suenotto

    suenotto Out Of The Brooder

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    Quote:My point is that its UNLIKELY to get 2/10, what seems more likely to me is that a hatchery is filling orders with extra males. I wanted to hear other people's experience with ordering straight runs or with efowl.

    This is an interesting tabulation from mathforum.org that shows the likelihood of drawing any combination of males and females given that nature provides at or close to 50/50 of each (just like the likelihood of flipping heads or tails, except here lets say they are picking ducklings randomly out of a bin) 90% of the time ducks chosen randomly out of a bin will give 5/5, 6/4 or 7/3 M/F or F/M, 10% of the time you will get 8/2, 9/1 or all male or all female.

    I guess I just became one of that 10%.

    0 heads: 1/1024 = 0.0009765625
    1 head: 10/1024 = 0.009765625
    2 heads: 45/1024 = 0.0439453125
    3 heads: 120/1024 = 0.1171875
    4 heads: 210/1024 = 0.205078125
    5 heads: 252/1024 = 0.24609375
    6 heads: 210/1024 = 0.205078125
    7 heads: 120/1024 = 0.1171875
    8 heads: 45/1024 = 0.0439453125
    9 heads: 10/1024 = 0.009765625
    10 heads: 1/1024 = 0.0009765625
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    1.0000000000
     
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  5. Funky Feathers

    Funky Feathers former Fattie

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    They are in fact a shady company that steals pics of BYC members' birds to sell their garbage birds. I will never buy from them, no one should. [​IMG]
     
  6. KansasKid

    KansasKid Chillin' With My Peeps

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    once in a blue moon you will get a high percentage of a males. it just happens i ordered from mcmurray once and got a bunch of males and only like 4 females
     
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  7. suenotto

    suenotto Out Of The Brooder

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    Quote:Yes, I read that on here. Unfortunately it was after the fact..
     
  8. MysticalMom

    MysticalMom Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Many of my ducks are from efowl. Never had a problem. All were/are happy, healthy absolutely BEAUTIFUL ducks. I never ordered straight run, because I knew I didn't want to take the chance of getting too many drakes. [​IMG]

    If it makes ya feel any better, Mother Nature screwed me! One of my muscovy hens only hatched 5 of her dozen or so eggs. All 5 are drakes.[​IMG]

    Here's some of my "garbage' birds from efowl.
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  9. redhen

    redhen Kiss My Grits... Premium Member

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    Quote:My point is that its UNLIKELY to get 2/10, what seems more likely to me is that a hatchery is filling orders with extra males. I wanted to hear other people's experience with ordering straight runs or with efowl.

    This is an interesting tabulation from mathforum.org that shows the likelihood of drawing any combination of males and females given that nature provides at or close to 50/50 of each (just like the likelihood of flipping heads or tails, except here lets say they are picking ducklings randomly out of a bin) 90% of the time ducks chosen randomly out of a bin will give 5/5, 6/4 or 7/3 M/F or F/M, 10% of the time you will get 8/2, 9/1 or all male or all female.

    I guess I just became one of that 10%.

    0 heads: 1/1024 = 0.0009765625
    1 head: 10/1024 = 0.009765625
    2 heads: 45/1024 = 0.0439453125
    3 heads: 120/1024 = 0.1171875
    4 heads: 210/1024 = 0.205078125
    5 heads: 252/1024 = 0.24609375
    6 heads: 210/1024 = 0.205078125
    7 heads: 120/1024 = 0.1171875
    8 heads: 45/1024 = 0.0439453125
    9 heads: 10/1024 = 0.009765625
    10 heads: 1/1024 = 0.0009765625
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    1.0000000000

    Yup..i agree that you got the short end of the stick on that deal... never said that you didnt.
    But..again.. thats WHY i would never order straight run.., Its just silly to do..
    unless i wanted males..of course.
    I'd suggest that next time, you just order girls....
    And even then..you'll STILL probably get a male or 2... [​IMG]
     
  10. Funky Feathers

    Funky Feathers former Fattie

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    Quote:Those are nice, you just got lucky is all. Or got them before they ran "afoul". [​IMG]
     

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