Egg Bound/ Water Belly- Help

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by HelloChicken, Jan 30, 2014.

  1. HelloChicken

    HelloChicken Out Of The Brooder

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    1) What type of bird , age and weight?
    This is what she looks like. Possible a Rhode Island Red (?) We do not know how old she is because she just showed up at our house one day (she is AT LEAST a year old though), her weight was the same as other hens, but now she is VERY heavy from the liquid in her abdomen!
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    2) What is the behavior, exactly.
    Hasn't been laying eggs, waddles around.
    Is perky, eats, drinks, and poops normally.
    She clucks and coos from time to time.
    When she is moved or startled her breathing gets worse (E.G. She can breath with her beak closed or wide open and straining her neck)


    3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?
    She has been like this over 2 weeks now.

    4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?
    I have had other hens like this and they died. She is the only one like this right now though.

    5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.
    Prior to me bringing her inside she only had the swollen abdomen.
    Now she has a small split in her back end. (not sure if from the syringe hole, a rooster trying to hop on her and mate, or if ripping from the liquid build up)
    I have just put some Betadine on this cut.

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    6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.
    At first, I thought she might be EGG BOUND. I felt for an egg- Did not feel one-, lubed her up, and soaked her in Epsom salt water and massaged her belly. So I am not sure if she is egg bound or if something else.

    7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.
    She has been drinking some water and a little olive oil I added to it. She has been eating cracked corn, starter feed, and laying pellets mixed. I have also let her snack on some bread and gave her about 2 Sardines.

    8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.
    The poop looks normal, maybe even a little dry?

    9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?
    I have soaked her for 30 minutes in Epsom salt water- about 5 times so far.
    Used a small Insulin Syringe to remove some liquid- about 200cc removed.- not much.
    I have lubed her vent with vaseline.- felt my finger inside her for egg- felt nothing.


    10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?

    I feel like I can treat her myself.

    11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.
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    12) Describe the housing/bedding in use
    I currently keep her inside, in a box, with newspaper on the bottom. She has a heat lamp I turn on above her. And 24/7 feed and water.





    Notes:
    I recently bought five 21g x 1.5 3mL Syringes I plan on using to remove more liquid. I feel like its causing pressure on her lungs and that's why shes breathing so bad.
    Are these okay to use? I worry the needle is too big :[
    I wanted to use a catheter on her but worry that will be too uncomfortable for her..

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  2. HelloChicken

    HelloChicken Out Of The Brooder

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    HelloChicken Out Of The Brooder

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    I stuck one of the syringes in her swollen abodmen, removed some liquid and now it will not stop flowing out. What should i do?
     
  4. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive Chicken Obsessed Premium Member

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    I haven't done this before, but I would recommend that you put pressure on the hole with your finger for about 5-10 minutes, and then check it to see if it has sealed.
     
  5. HelloChicken

    HelloChicken Out Of The Brooder

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    Okay, I will try that :]
    I was wanting to use a Catheter but rathered a needle.
    However this continued drip from her syringe hole is basically like a Catheter!
    It's getting a lot of clear/ brownish liquid out of her!
    I just worry, because she is getting kinda cold (I used a blow dryer to warm her up some)
    And shes closing her eyes (but she could just be relaxed?)
     
  6. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive Chicken Obsessed Premium Member

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    Are you inside the house? She may need to be inside for the night with some heat if she is getting chilled or shocky. If you have any gatorade or just some water with a pinch of salt and sugar in it, I would give her some to drink.
     
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  7. HelloChicken

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    yes, she is inside my room with the heater going, she also has a light above her :]
    She has food and water 24 hours a day.
    I will go add some salt and sugar to it~
     
  8. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    You should get a bigger syinge and drain all of the fluid. The needle I used was an 1" 18 gauge

    This is one I just did:
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  9. HelloChicken

    HelloChicken Out Of The Brooder

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    Thank you for the pictures! The needle I used left a tiny hole and it drained all night! I kept cleaning her bedding and drying her off. It's like a miracle! She is breathing great, she's lost like all the fluid (I was worried her body would go into shock from such loss) and her legs are not straddling anymore. She's even pecking other hens lol she's great. Just hope she stays in good health!
     

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