Facts on Breeding Lines and Toe Punching for Marking Chicks

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Glenda L Heywood, Apr 13, 2009.

  1. Glenda L Heywood

    Glenda L Heywood Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Well on the note of inbreeding may I state this

    When a person starts with a male and say 3-4 females
    each female is a line
    and genetically you can breed several lines with just those birds AND
    not be inbred
    One will use in first generation the original 5 birds
    now hen #1 is a line
    hen #2 is a line
    hen #3 is a line and
    hen #4 is a line

    Using the F-1 offspring in 2nd season you do this
    Use L#1 females on Line #2 males
    Line #2 female on Line #3 males
    Line #3 femakes on Line #4 males
    and go thru all the lines to a different line
    male and females
    All these matings will produce offspring for the F-2 progeny
    Each yr write down which females were bred to which line males

    each then is not related fully. As you will NEED to keeep a book on lines and toe punch the off spring in each yrs hatching that will keep the lines going for yrs
    I know of a person in South Carolina that never has added a new bird in 50 yrs using this
    system of breeding

    Here is the toe punch method of each line each yr

    Toe punches explained
    say line #3 females and line #1 males is the #2 toe punch
    which is Left out side web only
    this you would write in your book for reference next yr


    when you are talking about LI and LO and RI and RO you are thalking
    about
    the right and left foot and the webbing in the feet the inside would be
    the
    closest to the middle and outside would be the outside of the chicken?

    Also what do you use to hole pucnh and does it hurt the
    chickens? (a I use a toe punch which is held in your hand and web is insert in between top and bottom of toe punch. It makes a small sized hole as it is done on 2 day old chicks they don't flinch at its use. Make sure that it does cut thru so it will not grow shut

    How big of a hole should one make so that it does not grow back and shound
    you stick anything in the hole so it does not grow back? ( it is a hole a little smaller than a stick match hole. No it should not grow closed if it went thru the chick's web in foot. DO NOT stick any thing in the web hole it will be okay

    here is my completed toe punch
    USING TWO WEBS ON RIGHT FOOT
    AND TWO WEBS ON LEFT FOOT

    1. No Punch
    2. LO = LEFT OUT SIDE
    3. LO LI LEFT OUTSIDE AND LEFT INSIDE
    4. LO RI LEFT OUTSIDE AND RIGHT INSIDE
    5. LO RO LEFT OUTSIDE AND RIGHT OUT SIDE
    6. LO RIO LEFT OUTSIDE AND RIGHT INSIDE AND RIGHT OUTSIDE
    7. LI RI LEFT INSIDE AND RIGHT INSIDE
    8. LI RO LEFT INSIDE AND RIGHT OUTSIDE
    9. LI RIO LEFT INSIDE AND RIGHT INSIDE AND RIGHT OUT SIDE
    10. RO RIGHT OUTSIDE
    11. RO LIO RIGHT OUTSIDE AND LEFT INSIDE AND LEFT OUTSIDE
    12 LI LEFT INSIDE
    13. RI RIGHT INSIDE
    14. RI LIO RIGHT INSIDE AND LEFT INSIDE AND LEFT OUT SIDE
    15. RIO RIGHT INSIDE AND RIGHT OUT SIDE
    16. RIO LIO RIGHT INSIDE AND RIGHT OUT SIDE AND LEFT INSIDE AND LEFT OUTSIDE


    My notations
    (1 no punch in any web (1)
    (2 right inside web no left web (13)
    (3 right outside web and no left web (10)
    (4 no right web inside left web (12 )
    (5 no right web outside left web (2)
    (6 right inside web two left webs (14)
    (7 right outside web two left webs (11)
    (8 two right webs left inside web (9)
    (9 two right webs left outside web (6)
    (10 both right webs both left webs (16)
    (11 right outside web outside left web (5)
    (12 right inside web left inside web (7)
    (13 right outside web left inside web (8)
    (14 right inside web left outside web (4)
    (15 no right Left outside Left inside (3)
    (16 right inside & outside no left web (15)

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  2. ehatch

    ehatch Out Of The Brooder

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    Just wanted to say thanks for the information, it was really helpful!

    Erica
     
  3. Glenda L Heywood

    Glenda L Heywood Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Did every one understand this information on breeding?
     
  4. schipperkemom

    schipperkemom Out Of The Brooder

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    This is really helpful info. It takes a while to get it, I found it really helpful to draw it out visually. Thanks.
     

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